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  1. #441
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Doesn't it occur to you that many are passionate about getting into the alpha because they want to contribbute to making ARR a better game?

    Considering the amount of dedication it took to stick with this game, I don't see it as such an unrealistic possibility. Second guessing the motives of people you don't know doesn't exactly work very well when trying to bring a sensical argument.
    I don't know about anyone else but I don't see that. What I see is a group of people who see this presumed golden ticket into the alpha/beta as a status symbol and an entitlement that should have been handed to them without question.

    Nobody is blowing up these forums because they are devistated about not hunting down and squashing bugs. People who genuinely want to help in that capacity aren't going to come here and complain about how it is bs they weren't offered a voluntary position nor are they going to start trumping up conspiracy theories about how the system was rigged against them.

    If you offer to help your neighbor mow her lawn but she tells you that her nephew is coming to do it so that won't be necessary, do you tell her that's unfair? Do you complain to her that you really feel you care more about her lawn because you live right next to it every day so you should get to mow it? No! That is not the behavior of someone who wants to volunteer help. That is the behavior of a person who feels entitled to some possession, their precious.

    There isn't some genuine benevolence in this. What these players are really angry about is that they believe they are more deserving of the magical tester status than the people that were randomly selected for the test.

    Everyone knows it, even them, so there is little benefit in pretending about their real intentions. It isn't going to help them in any capacity.
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  2. #442
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faiyez View Post
    Gee, then I wonder what criteria they used to select testers who played 1.0 for a month, never even payed to play, never posted on the forums....

    You should try spelling r-a-n-d-o-m
    Gee, then I wonder what was the point of all the information that we were required to enter as part of the alpha application, the times available for testing and your main classes....

    You should try having some m-e-m-o-r-y.
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  3. #443
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faiyez View Post
    Gee, then I wonder what criteria they used to select testers who played 1.0 for a month, never even payed to play, never posted on the forums....

    You should try spelling r-a-n-d-o-m
    Prove to me inactives got in, right now and no a friend of a friend's friend bs will not work, you are just butthurt cos you didn't get in end of story, go to the crying corner with everyone else please.
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  4. #444
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faiyez View Post
    Gee, then I wonder what criteria they used to select testers who played 1.0 for a month, never even payed to play, never posted on the forums....

    You should try spelling r-a-n-d-o-m
    Pretty much this, SE should know at least who enter on the forum to check it, idk, maybe when someone log on. I know 2 guys that got alpha invite and both don't know there were a forum here...

    Also, not QQing now, just sad .
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  5. #445
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    Quote Originally Posted by vax View Post
    Pretty much this, SE should know at least who enter on the forum to check it, idk, maybe when someone log on. I know 2 guys that got alpha invite and both don't know there were a forum here...

    Also, not QQing now, just sad .
    Read the latest players poll the majority of players do not post on the forums, we are the minority, so by your logic the majority of players should be excluded because they don't wanna post here.
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  6. #446
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    Quote Originally Posted by vax View Post
    Pretty much this, SE should know at least who enter on the forum to check it, idk, maybe when someone log on. I know 2 guys that got alpha invite and both don't know there were a forum here...

    Also, not QQing now, just sad .
    But why? Alpha testers have a different forum than us - it was stated awhile ago. What benefits will knowledge of a previous forum do towards the testing of an alpha version of what is at the core a different game?
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  7. #447
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    Quote Originally Posted by whoopeeragon View Post
    But why? Alpha testers have a different forum than us - it was stated awhile ago. What benefits will knowledge of a previous forum do towards the testing of an alpha version of what is at the core a different game?
    Read the latest players poll the majority of players do not post on the forums, we are the minority, so by your logic the majority of players should be excluded because they don't wanna post here.
    Yes i know, but i think that people that generally use the forum or at least check it will guarantee that later on the alpha will use the forum to post bugs, etc.

    Maybe SE don't want people that use FFXIV forum because will say something about the alpha? xD
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  8. #448
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    so by your logic the majority of players should be excluded because they don't wanna post here.
    Actually, you might be on to something there...
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  9. #449
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    Prove to me inactives got in, right now and no a friend of a friend's friend bs will not work, you are just butthurt cos you didn't get in end of story, go to the crying corner with everyone else please.
    Lol your hiding behind the NDA and asking for proof that can't be given. How bout you prove they weren't? People who got in won't post about it so all that can be gone off of is what our friends that got in say. Its the only proof there is either way. Proof has been given that inactives could apply, which is against what most of us thought SE said. Now since you are calling everyone a liar, prove that inactives didn't get in. Don't hide beyond the NDA knowing full well no one is going to just go like o Ya I got in!
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    Last edited by Azurus; 11-27-2012 at 09:25 AM.

  10. #450
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    Quote Originally Posted by whoopeeragon View Post
    But why? Alpha testers have a different forum than us - it was stated awhile ago. What benefits will knowledge of a previous forum do towards the testing of an alpha version of what is at the core a different game?
    Talk about missing the point... sheesh.
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