Global Alpha Test Start Date

[Aion]

Considering some of the people who got in their definition of active seems to mean, bought FFXIV and played during the trial month. But its their game they can let in whoever they want.

then just remove these two requirements


Application Requirements
- Must currently have an active FINAL FANTASY XIV account

- Must be willing to participate actively and submit bug reports in at least one of the following languages: Japanese, English, French, German

[Shougun]

That post is just a rather disingenuous attempt to justify the problem. Initially the system automatically bounced out inactive accounts (IE: people that couldn't play the game).

Playing with terminology is rather moot when "inactive" and "active" account have just one very precise meaning in the pay to play MMO industry (or in every industry that requires the payment of periodic fees to access a service). It's not open to interpretation.

I know you are on attack mode but I didnt mean it as an excuse. I meant it as a way to effectively talk about SE position on the matter. SE obviously isnt following the expected/general idea of what it means to be active - so inorder to effectively discuss the conversation it may be best to realign information.

Whats important, is that the testers do their best to make sure ARR is in the best shape possible. No matter who they are.

Coming from a lala.. so cute lol - Feel like I just read some Dr. Seus XD

[Abriael]

Yes, it's silly inactives are getting in in the first place, but hey, mistakes happen. It just means there is a certain delay for some people.

Mistakes happen, and I'm very willing to be forgiving towards them when they are recognized and amended. That's why we're all here in the first place no? This whole game is a big mistake, but SE recognized it and is trying to make amends.

I feel much less willing to be forgiving if the mistake is swept under the rug without so much as a word, though.

I know you are on attack mode but I didnt mean it as an excuse. I meant it as a way to effectively talk about SE position on the matter. SE obviously isnt following the expected/general idea of what it means to be active - so inorder to effectively discuss the conversation it may be best to realign information.

SE obviously was following the expected/general idea of what means to be active, as lapsed accounts were initially bounced as the application was opened, and were bounced for weeks.

Either some system problem caused the rule to change, or SE changed it intentionally. In the first case, fessing up and apologizing would go a long way, in the second case, that kind of rule changes need to be communicated, for the sake of transparency and even to allow those that tried to initially apply but couldn't to retry.

Honestly, there's no angle I could look at it that justifies SE's current behavior.

If it's a mistake, you apologize.
If it's a change in policy, you communicate it.
If it never happened, you deny the allegation officially instead of deleting the thread about it.

Communication and transparency are always the key in PR. SE seems to have learned this lesson quite a bit ago, so this seems a rather large step back.

[Reinheart]

Whats important, is that the testers do their best to make sure ARR is in the best shape possible. No matter who they are.

^^ THIS --- Yes please... this is all it matters for these testing stages, as long as finished product comes out the way it should be... not like ver 1.0 release and enough content to keep new players in we should be good.

[Velhart]

I can tell you that people who have alpha tested for SE before will not have priority because I was part of alpha 1 for FFXIV 1.0, so by that logic I would have been high priority for it.

I doubt that anyone who was in Alpha 1.xx was taken into consideration for that reason.

[Kiote]

so we need active account to apply for alpha....but did not need it to get selected? wait what?

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the problem is not the selected one, but the case inactive account able to apply.

Square Enix defines an Active Account as having Logged in Within the past 30 Days. It is the same requirement used to prevent inactive players from posting on these forums.

To Apply for Alpha, all you had to do was log in to your character, then fill out the Alpha application.

If you cared enough to enable your character, log in to the game, and fill out the Alpha application, you obviously want this game to be successful and are completely justified in being part of the Alpha Test.

[vax]

This is weird. I logged onto recheck the alpha application. And whenever I log into it I now it, error "your region is different". I logged onto the english application too, and my account is in the region "the americas". Maybe SE saw the problem are currently working to fix it?

I tried it too, got the same error.

[Soukyuu]

I feel much less willing to be forgiving if the mistake is swept under the rug without so much as a word, though.

I don't think it really was swept under the rug, tbh, it just made an impression of this happening. Whether there will be an explanation from SE or not, idk. I hope there is, else the negative impression will stay, and nobody wants that.

Whats important, is that the testers do their best to make sure ARR is in the best shape possible. No matter who they are.

Pretty much my stance. If I get selected, fine, if not, then not.

[Shougun]

SE obviously was following the expected/general idea of what means to be active, as lapsed accounts were initially bounced as the application was opened.

Either some system problem caused the rule to change, or SE changed it intentionally. In the first case, fessing up and apologizing would go a long way, in the second case, that kind of rule changes need to be communicated, for the sake of transparency and even to allow those that tried to initially apply but couldn't to retry.

Just saw it in another thread - didnt know they where bumping them originally. I wonder if the apps got into the system even though it said it was bumping them.. lol

I agree with what you're saying btw (previously too), though good luck getting SE to say anything except "Please look forward to the next batch of invites" lol.

[Delsus]

I had the same stance as you before I saw an inactive account passing the check with my own eyes. Ultimately though, this doesn't matter. If those inactive players get in but don't log in, the login ratio will drop, which means we will get a new wave of invites. Yes, it's silly inactives are getting in in the first place, but hey, mistakes happen. It just means there is a certain delay for some people.

As to why people rage about not getting in is beyond me. It's just a stress test. The majority of the content isn't in, as stated in the interviews.

As I say, you saw a receipt of acknowledgement not someone getting in, if the final event did mess things up, they may have added a check to the script that selects, therefore it will either take only evidence an inactive got in, or your brother getting in another wave to show inactives are being selected or of course an official statement from a rep.