SE consider a free to play option

[Preypacer]

Yes I already said that's why I love the F2P model some people can pay monthly and I can still play get my fill and not spend any money. There is nothing wrong with the F2P model. I won't get the same experience as someone else but the enjoyment I do get out of it is good enough for me. But in actuality I already spend $75 buying the collectors edition of the game.

This forum is pretty biased against F2P because you had to of payed to post here. But go ask anyone on other gaming sties if they would rather have a F2P or a sub mmo you find the answer more often then not is F2P.

Its pretty pointless to argue with me, I like free to play, you don't. Pretty much end of discussion right there.

You ended the argument as soon as you revealed your 100% selfish and self-centered attitude about F2P. Openly admitting you're all for the idea of others spending their money so you can freeload doesn't exactly show you in a flattering light. Like I said, everything you say going forward is colored by that.

Don't get all indignant now because you blew any chance of having your "suggestions" taken seriously.

What they say on other sites doesn't mean squat. This isn't other websites, and the fact that people here are paying to support this game and - unlike you - are happy to continue is what matters. We've made our investment and we are willing and ready to put our money where our "ideals" are. Unlike you, who admittedly prefers the idea of others paying to see your "ideal scenario" carried out.

You're a would-be free-loader with an entitled attitude who wants others to pay for their entertainment. End of story.

[Zumi]

You ended the argument as soon as you revealed your 100% selfish and self-centered attitude about F2P. Openly admitting you're all for the idea of others spending their money so you can freeload doesn't exactly show you in a flattering light. Like I said, everything you say going forward is colored by that.

Don't get all indignant now because you blew any chance of having your "suggestions" taken seriously.

What they say on other sites doesn't mean squat. This isn't other websites, and the fact that people here are paying to support this game and - unlike you - are happy to continue is what matters. We've made our investment and we are willing and ready to put our money where our "ideals" are. Unlike you, who admittedly prefers the idea of others paying to see your "ideal scenario" carried out.

You're a would-be free-loader with an entitled attitude who wants others to pay for their entertainment. End of story.

No I haven't free loaded anything I have bought the $75 collectors edition, and paid over a few hundred on sub fees, as well as 10 years of FFXI.

[ShinigamiKayla]

No I haven't free loaded anything I have bought the $75 collectors edition, and paid over a few hundred on sub fees, as well as 10 years of FFXI.

I payed for 10 years of FFXI and 8 years of WoW so far together o.O and I'm still not going I've been able to afford 2 games no prob... 30 bucks a month is not really a dent and I'm a 21 year old college student... so I don't drink and party every other night I rather game instead oh well o.O I don't mind paying subs because I know the company that requests it will be able to provide non shitty content for the money... I believe in S-E and I know ARR will do good o.o/

[Zumi]

I payed for 10 years of FFXI and 8 years of WoW so far together o.O and I'm still not going I've been able to afford 2 games no prob... 30 bucks a month is not really a dent and I'm a 21 year old college student... so I don't drink and party every other night I rather game instead oh well o.O

I too have paid for WoW my subscription is still current in that game, but they actually have a lot of content to do so its worth it.

[ShinigamiKayla]

I too have paid for WoW my subscription is still current in that game, but they actually have a lot of content to do so its worth it.

then what are you crying for you didnt have to pay for FFXIV or play FFXI for a sub price... hell if your going to say that then why did you pay at all when you knew there was no content your logic makes no sense... so shouldn't you withhold your judgement on the model until you actually see ARR on release? Instead of assuming its going to bomb again?

[NadienKirisame]

then what are you crying for you didnt have to pay for FFXIV or play FFXI for a sub price... hell if your going to say that then why did you pay at all when you knew there was no content your logic makes no sense... so shouldn't you withhold your judgement on the model until you actually see ARR on release? Instead of assuming its going to bomb again?

Oh... HO HO HO... foolish ShinigamiKayla!! That is not how leeches work don't you know... they don't look they just grab hold and suck out as much as they can... and do you know the best way to remove most leeches... hehe heh... FIRE works wonders don't you think??

The cat is bemused =-.-=

[Zumi]

then what are you crying for you didnt have to pay for FFXIV or play FFXI for a sub price... hell if your going to say that then why did you pay at all when you knew there was no content your logic makes no sense... so shouldn't you withhold your judgement on the model until you actually see ARR on release? Instead of assuming its going to bomb again?

I have no problem paying for something thats good however. I seen F2P games that offered more then 1.0.

[NadienKirisame]

I have no problem paying for something thats good however. I seen F2P games that offered more then 1.0.

Um if you didn't know... v1.0 is done with... and thus has no real hold on what v2.0 will be like since v2.0 is totally new. Also on your note of F2P games having more... I will tell you this... I have played pretty much every single MMO P2P and F2P that has come out... why because I like doing that... I PLAY ALL THE GAMES!!! literally... all the games...

Do you know that I stick with P2P games much much longer and in fact I normally have 5 P2P games going at one time... do you know how fast I go through all those F2P games? Now why do you think it is hmmm? because silly they are boring as hell and there is nothing to them at all... NOTHING!

So I wish for them to keep this game P2P at least that way I will know it wont be a waste of my time like all those other pathetic F2P games...

You can run along to all of those... please... go ahead... run now...

The cat is bemused =-.-=

[MicahZerrshia]

I have no problem paying for something thats good however. I seen F2P games that offered more then 1.0.

Wasn't 1.0 FTP for most of its life anyway?

2.0 is a new, completely seperate release in my eyes. And getting it free to me is kindda like SE saying, sorry I know ffXIV was bad, here have a copy of FFXV on the house! I will willingly pay subscription fees as long as they game is good and keeps me rolling and since I consider it a new game I will expect just that, what an mmo is before it has an expansion.

However games like GW2 which are ftp but have the in-game store where you can buy whatever you need, do not get any money from me because I dont use the store option...ever. And other games I tried that were ftp got stale fast and had more in-game problems than any ptp I have experienced. Comparing ARR to WoW, XI or any established older game is just a silly arguement. You cant expect 10 years worth of content at release.

[ShinigamiKayla]

I have no problem paying for something thats good however. I seen F2P games that offered more then 1.0.

go play one of those games then?