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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanne View Post
    I hope they take priority to other things first, good interesting combat, all the fun things the want to add, if that is all done then they can polish the game.
    This.

    There are too many people on these forums who have complaints about the most trivial aspects of what we've seen or have been told; whether it be jumping, grass or gay marriage.

    It's beyond silly the priorities some of the people in this community have. We need to stop detracting away from the real issues this game has going forward and not have the biggest threads on the forums be frivolous.
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    @ thread opener

    people like you should get banned for some days... starting new threads for a topic over and over again which already exists..

    Quote Originally Posted by Montijin View Post
    This.

    There are too many people on these forums who have complaints about the most trivial aspects of what we've seen or have been told; whether it be jumping, grass or gay marriage.

    It's beyond silly the priorities some of the people in this community have. We need to stop detracting away from the real issues this game has going forward and not have the biggest threads on the forums be frivolous.
    good thing that not all people within this forum are crazy
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    lot of things that could be discussed...

    FATE system
    Limit Break/skill chain
    Leves/quest progression/UI
    Level pacing
    Magic/Summon/Weapon skill animation
    etc...
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    To the ones saying the people bothered by this should ignore it, would it be so much a burden if -you- couldn't jump on tents, hop about, or is it that you want to be able to do those things, and feel you have more right to your wants than others?

    What real reason can you give to allow jumping on structures, that you're obviously not supposed to? Other than "freedom" and "Just because" The real problem here, is a lot of you feel peoples valid concerns of it changing the style of FFXIV from somewhat realistic, to a comical, cartoony vibe, akin to other generic MMOs, isn't valid and not worth thinking about. I disagree and feel all opinions should be evaluated.

    I think it is fair to actually balance both sides of the coin, and see what is being put in "for the sake of it" and what could be done to appease both sides. Since, obviously, it is an issue, however minor it seems to one side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    @ thread opener

    people like you should get banned for some days... starting new threads for a topic over and over again which already exists..
    I take comfort in seeing that the vast majority, by far, of people who've posted intelligent answers were against jumping on top of tents.
    Reading such idiotic rubbish like what you just posted makes me wonder: should I ignore it, or should I address it?

    Its the first time I've posted this thread, discussing this subject. As far as I know, there's no one who complained about the very specific subject of people jumping on tents in the video. Just because a thread touches the topic of jumping it doesn't mean its the same as every other topic that's being posted.

    And even if it were, there are no rules about posting such things. I am not spamming the boards, I posted a single topic of mine. A concern of mine.

    And its people like you who should get banned, because instead of letting people voice their opinions and have meaningful discussions about the subject you come to either troll the thread or derail it. Or troll it with responses that bring nothing into the table.

    Don't like something being discussed? Ignore it. Those who are interested in discussing it will do so, and those who don't, won't. And if it's really of no one's interest, the thread will die in a few hours.

    But here we are, in a trending topic. Mostly because of trolls like you and others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aion View Post
    lot of things that could be discussed...

    FATE system
    Limit Break/skill chain
    Leves/quest progression/UI
    Level pacing
    Magic/Summon/Weapon skill animation
    etc...
    There isn't really enough information about these topics to discuss them with a fruitful purpose other than speculation or wild guesses. IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menchi View Post
    To the ones saying the people bothered by this should ignore it, would it be so much a burden if -you- couldn't jump on tents, hop about, or is it that you want to be able to do those things, and feel you have more right to your wants than others?

    What real reason can you give to allow jumping on structures, that you're obviously not supposed to? Other than "freedom" and "Just because" The real problem here, is a lot of you feel peoples valid concerns of it changing the style of FFXIV from somewhat realistic, to a comical, cartoony vibe, akin to other generic MMOs, isn't valid and not worth thinking about. I disagree and feel all opinions should be evaluated.

    I think it is fair to actually balance both sides of the coin, and see what is being put in "for the sake of it" and what could be done to appease both sides. Since, obviously, it is an issue, however minor it seems to one side.
    ^This. A thousand times.

    I think being able to jump on any surface conveys a cartoon like image, akin to cheap amateur MMORPGs.
    While FF does portray things with humor, it has nothing cheap about the way it delivers it. And realism, on top of all, is what's been predominating in its titles. Specially on 1.0.

    The whole "more freedom is better" argument is pretty silly, in my opinion.

    Otherwise people would be able to walk through water or to jump from any height or get through walls and any obstacles.
    What makes one more noteworthy than the other? Just because it hasn't been addressed yet?

    You already aren't able to jump off high cliffs due to invisible walls. This serves to portray common sense in your character. And in the same way, it should be portrayed by not allowing them to jump on top of every structure like baboons.
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    Last edited by Majidah; 11-23-2012 at 11:32 AM.

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    I don't have a problem with anyone nitpicking at this game and voicing their annoyances. I'm very analytical of the games I play and its why I've had a tough time finding an MMO I can stay with; so I can relate to small grievances.

    The reason why you're seeing people angry at you and others for making these topics is because they are so far down on the list of things SE needs to worry about that it's infuriating to see them as the most replied threads.

    It seems like the SE representatives will reply to the threads that get the most attention and instead of those threads being about something crucial to the game, like some of the topics Aion posted, they are topics like the gay marriage thread.
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    There isn't really enough information about these topics to discuss them with a fruitful purpose other than speculation or wild guesses. IMO.
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    4gamer interview: This one had some common points with the Dengeki one, so I left them out. They fooled my with their "it's only 2 pages"-format... It was much longer than Dengeki's 5 page interview lol. Blue = my comments

    Please refrain from posting comments here, this thread is meant for translations
    • Story
      • Main story will introduce a character related to Louisiox
      • Why Bahamut was sealed is related to the Crystal Tower
      • There will be no need to know the 1.0 story, as everything will be explained in ARR
      • Concept art of items obtainable in the Great Labyrinth of Bahamut [click]
    • Name changes
      • Changing char name is possible technically
      • This will mean your friend list [and probably LS membership] will be lost, though
      • They are worried about people mistyping their char name, since it's a one-time opportunity and there is no confirmation dialogue on char creation, so they are asking to be careful about it
      • HE NEVER SAID "YES" DIRECTLY! WAIT FOR AN OFFICIAL CONFIRMATION!
    • Character customization
      • Bust sizes vary by races, for example Roegardyn will have bigger sizes than sunseeker, moonkeeper coming after it. [Hyur/Elezen not mentioned]
      • Bust physics will be kept as modest as possible
      • Other char model movements involve Miqo'te ears & tail, as well as Elezen/Lalafell ears.
      • For miqo'te tails, there will be 5 tail types, ranging from more lion-like movement to more cat-like movement [Yay~]
      • Barber NPC will make you do a quest that will allow you to change your hairstyle, it's color as well as facepaint. Not face/body proportions though.
    • FATE
      • Definition of NM as "mosters that suddenly make the otherwise safe environment dangerous"
      • Rewards are decided based not on party, but individual performance
      • All players treated as "one large party" [so basically you just get flagged as "near enough to be evaluated for a reward, which also level-synchs you to the event level]
      • Level sync only works one-way: if you're above content level, you will be de-levelled, if you're below content level, nothing happens.
      • Other FATE types:
        • village/city invasion (example: bandits/thieves)
        • chocobo escort
      • No limit on how many people can participate in a FATE
      • They are thinking about a system that automatically creates an instance and moves the half of the people to a new one should the number of people reach a certain number
      • While this system is technologically possible, the cost is high, so they are planning to monitor the events in alpha&beta to decide if it's really needed.
    • Housing
      • To be able to afford an M-Sized house, three players would have to level to 50 by clearing all quests and combine the gil theay earned from that. Apparently, that would take about 50 hours.
      • The housing system is comparable to Dragon Quest X
      • Land and House prices are separate
      • Land starts expensive, but if it's not bought, the price will start to drop
      • There are only 3 L-sized patches of land per instance
      • Apparently, once we will see the amount of gil needed to buy an L-sized patch of land, we will recoil in horror.
      • Since the price will be falling with time, he wants us to worry about when the right timing to buy it will be
      • Retainers will be placed in our homes
      • You can buy from them there, or alternatively from the board [probably our current marketplace system]
    • Free Company
      • Free company ranking and "earning reputation from a GC" is just a setting they thought of for the roleplaying community. Non-RPing players won't really have to pay attention to that.
      • Example of perks for taking the top position in a GC ranking: That GC NPC will greet members of that FC with more respect, saluting once you approach them.
    • Marriage System
      • For bonuses for getting married, they are only thinking of simple things like using the wedding ring to teleport to your partner. No bonuses in battle, else it will just lead to fake marriages
      • To be able to marry, you will have to clear a quest with your partner
    • Mounts
      • Only chocobo will be fighting by your side, others are for riding only
      • When you level up, your chocobo levels up with you
      • There are plans to make the magitech armor customizable [think mecha parts]
      • Magitech armor will somehow be connected to the story, he said they prepared an episode that will make us sit there grinning
      • Using in in PvE/PvP is possible, but they currently have no plans for it
    • PvE/PvP Balancing
      • They're carefully balancing damage and status effects between those two [seems like the rulesets are NOT separated after all.]
      • Some kind of "item level" will be introduced which describes the usefullness of your equip. Not only the DPS but also the status effects is taken in account, so that we can go away from "if you're not keeping up your DPS, you're useless"-mindset
    • Items/Equip
      • Inventory limited, but banks will have larger capacity
      • Vanity items still class restricted (no heavy armor mages)
      • In PvP, vanity will be disabled, so you won't be able to trick people with it
      • FATE rewards will contain vanity items among others
    • New Races
      • Reason why he is torn between Viera and something more brute-ish like a reptile is because Viera are too close to humans and he wanted to introduce something more beast-like. Also, Viera has only appeared as female so far... and he doesn't want to have a gender-locked race... [read: do you seriously want to see bunnyGUYS?!]
      • He is also worried about crossing a certain line after which it will become hard to distinguish between PCs and NPCs/Monsters
    • Alpha
      • currently, zone servers can handle up to 700 players with about 300 battles taking place in one zone and all the AI running
      • servers start to lag extremely @800 players in one zone, with about 380 battles taking place
      • they plan to increase that to 1000 players per zone
    • Beta
      • PvP will be available for testing
      • They are thinking of people with alpha invites to be brought to phase1 beta too, but it's not set in stone yet.
      • The dev team is practicing PvP matches already, meaning we get to fight them
    • Game content
      • normal quests soloable
      • dungeons and raids require a party
      • normal mode clearable when forming one via content finder
      • hard mode is only clearable if you have people with experience working together [implying you CAN try to clear it by auto-matching, but you'll need a lot of luck]
      • content may be hard at first, but if for example a patch introduces some new content that gives you a nice item, it will raise your "item level", making clearing previous content easier.

    He just said "registration codes" so idk.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post901126

    so discussing something that already been discussed is....fruitful?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matty_Pockets View Post
    And food? Holy crap! You can eat as much as you want! Completely unreal too.
    Don't crush my dreams! I'm a Gridanian, I couldn't just go off and waste all that food! I had like 10 zucchinis, 3 lentils, and Twelve knows what else! So I did what any good citizen would do, I ate it.
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