So about jump.

[LlenCoram]

There's a contest in there somewhere, and I'll be proud to partake in it.

You're on!

[KiriA500]

Talking in the context of the characters that we're playing, not in the context of the players.

I know. Doctor Beatbox wants nothing more than to sew some pants atop a tent! He told me.

The difference between believability and realism was explained pretty well a few pages ago. Realism in context.

Let's just assume the tent is made of the same material as our equipment. It can be 0% durability and still look perfect. There, it makes sense.

On the contrary, I contribute to the discussions on the forums about the things I don't like. I don't get upset when the things I don't like stay in the game if more people like those things than dislike them. I didn't like the idea of "!" appearing above quest-givers, I voiced my opinion, but more forum-users thought it would make a good addition. That's one of the purposes of the forum, so please don't insinuate that if there's something I dislike I should suck it up and deal with it just because that's what you choose to do.

Yeah, but there's a difference between aesthetics and core game mechanics. I've stated several times how much I hate the emotes in this game, but I don't start up 10 threads a minute making my case known, because it's just my opinion. You disliking the (!) icon above the head of quest NPC's is your personal problem. I don't want to think of what this game would be like if Square-Enix took every single complaint from the forum and fixed it, especially ones as trivial as "I DISLIKE THIS ICON PLZ FIX!"

But everyone was aware that it was a minor fuck-up in the game and not by design. Same goes for the 'hovering' a few yalms past the edge of a step. Would have been better if it didn't happen, but was hardly one of the major faults of FFXI.

What if...the ability to jump on a tent is just a minor mistake in the Alpha, because Square-Enix just happened to not think about it? I mean, it is an Alpha test...there are bound to be glitches that people find, it's kind of the entire point of an Alpha/Beta test.

That haven't had their own threads made and discussed fully? I don't think so. Prove me wrong, start a thread about it.

I'm not an entitled brat about this game, so I don't need to start a thread about little things that bother me. This community has a problem with just making garbage threads for the sake of making them. We get it, you dislike the grass/tent/whatever, let's make 10 threads about it and get absolutely nothing accomplished! No thanks.

Yeah, perhaps dumb was the wrong word. Maybe I should have said 'unnecessary'. However, the things you mention still make sense in context of the characters. Except the reindeer suit. Those should be burned.

It's the best set of gear in the game. Haters gonna hate.

[Mjollnir]

I know. Doctor Beatbox wants nothing more than to sew some pants atop a tent! He told me.

And if the majority of players consider that doing *anything* on top of a tent is fine, then a criticism like this will be forgotten (which I appreciate is the most likely scenario, considering the OP's got about 8x 'Like!' atm).

Let's just assume the tent is made of the same material as our equipment. It can be 0% durability and still look perfect. There, it makes sense.

Doesn't though, does it? I can't stand on top of your dumb reindeer suit and craft brown pants, for instance. I would, if I could. Over and over. But I can't.

Yeah, but there's a difference between aesthetics and core game mechanics.

I agree, but just because one is a priority over the other, doesn't mean the other should never be addressed.

I've stated several times how much I hate the emotes in this game, but I don't start up 10 threads a minute making my case known, because it's just my opinion. You disliking the (!) icon above the head of quest NPC's is your personal problem. I don't want to think of what this game would be like if Square-Enix took every single complaint from the forum and fixed it, especially ones as trivial as "I DISLIKE THIS ICON PLZ FIX!"

Getting kind of off-topic now, so apologies.

This is the only thread about being able to jump up on to that tent (and presumably a whole host of other not-particularly-solid things similarly). Not ten threads a minute, which would be retarded.

The reason I brought up my '!' experience (this was before quest icons were introduced btw) was to illustrate a past discussion. It was someone else's personal problem. I agreed with it, as did a hundred or so others. More disagreed. Presumably, feedback (if any) to Yoshi was along the lines of "the minority of people don't like this" and so the implementation went ahead. I would hope that if the post had got 1000 likes, it would have been brought to Yoshi's attention and he may have thought twice about implementation. That's why people make threads; to see if others share their opinions, or in more disagree.

No-one's suggesting that S-E should fix every single complaint from the forum, it seems bizarre you'd suggest that they should.

What if...the ability to jump on a tent is just a minor mistake in the Alpha, because Square-Enix just happened to not think about it? I mean, it is an Alpha test...there are bound to be glitches that people find, it's kind of the entire point of an Alpha/Beta test.

That'd be nice, yes.

I'm not an entitled brat about this game, so I don't need to start a thread about little things that bother me. This community has a problem with just making garbage threads for the sake of making them. We get it, you dislike the grass/tent/whatever, let's make 10 threads about it and get absolutely nothing accomplished! No thanks.

No-one's behaving like an entitled brat. However, we are entitled to make forum threads about things in the game to open the subject for discussion amongst the community. There have been plenty of threads that I've read wherein I've initially agreed with an OP, only to have my opinion changed after reading the constructive and measured arguments to the contrary.

Nothing accomplished? A fair amount of the threads I read get confirmations from community reps, whether they have taken a suggestion on-board or already have plans for that particular element of the game.

It's the best set of gear in the game. Haters gonna hate.

Vehemently.