So about jump.

[Mjollnir]

Or they can set invisible walls next to tents but then you can't really complain that jumping on tents is not realistic since now an invisible force is keeping you from jumping on it. I don't know about you, but I'll take jumping on the tent over invisible walls or unable to run the game at good FPS.

Agree with the OP.

Disagree that the invisible force is not realistic/believable. If there was an invisible force above a tent preventing me from jumping on it, I wouldn't consider that immersion-breaking, I'd consider that all characters automatically understood that would be a dumb thing to do in context, in exactly the same way we can't tear up grass with our bare hands, wield a chair in battle or ride on each others' shoulders.

Standing on a tent isn't relevant to a group of adventurers, so why is the option even there?

[KiriA500]

Standing on a tent isn't relevant to a group of adventurers, so why is the option even there?

Making a Lalafell isn't relevant to me, so why is the option even there?

What if my one wish in life is to create armor while atop a tent? WHY YOU GOTTA KEEP ME DOWN?

Seriously though, a lot of people seem to get "I dislike something" with "THIS IS THE WORST THING EVER OMG CHANGE IT!" mixed up on these forums. Like, really think about it...how much would the entire game (not just your personal experience) be hurt by allowing players to stand on a tent? We can stand on a fence, or boxes...is that fine? Why is this such a big deal? Realism? Last time I checked, nothing in this game was real, so that's a poor excuse.

It's ok to admit you just don't like something, there are quite a few things about this game I dislike...but I don't demand they be changed because I happen to not like them, I suck it up and deal with it. Now...if standing on a tent somehow manages to spawn free relics, or cause instant wins on dungeons, then yes...I could see it being a problem. Unless I'm mistaken, this has nothing to do with gameplay, it's just a place our characters can stand on. People were able to stand on platforms they normally weren't able to in Final Fantasy XI (such as "falling off" the airship), and I don't recall people getting super offended by the thought of it. People really need to set their priorities better...because there are far more things that could be focused on than stuff like this.

[Kallera]

Agree with the OP.

Disagree that the invisible force is not realistic/believable. If there was an invisible force above a tent preventing me from jumping on it, I wouldn't consider that immersion-breaking, I'd consider that all characters automatically understood that would be a dumb thing to do in context, in exactly the same way we can't tear up grass with our bare hands, wield a chair in battle or ride on each others' shoulders.

Standing on a tent isn't relevant to a group of adventurers, so why is the option even there?

Reindeer suit, egg hats, moogle weapons, stabbing a TREE to death.

I'd say adventurers are quite open to dumb ideas. Jumping on tents seems quite tame.

[KiriA500]

Reindeer suit

dumb

GIRL, I KNOW YOU DID NOT JUST GO THERE!

[Andrien]

Making a Lalafell isn't relevant to me, so why is the option even there?

What if my one wish in life is to create armor while atop a tent? WHY YOU GOTTA KEEP ME DOWN?

Seriously though, a lot of people seem to get "I dislike something" with "THIS IS THE WORST THING EVER OMG CHANGE IT!" mixed up on these forums. Like, really think about it...how much would the entire game (not just your personal experience) be hurt by allowing players to stand on a tent? We can stand on a fence, or boxes...is that fine? Why is this such a big deal? Realism? Last time I checked, nothing in this game was real, so that's a poor excuse.

It's ok to admit you just don't like something, there are quite a few things about this game I dislike...but I don't demand they be changed because I happen to not like them, I suck it up and deal with it. Now...if standing on a tent somehow manages to spawn free relics, or cause instant wins on dungeons, then yes...I could see it being a problem. Unless I'm mistaken, this has nothing to do with gameplay, it's just a place our characters can stand on. People were able to stand on platforms they normally weren't able to in Final Fantasy XI (such as "falling off" the airship), and I don't recall people getting super offended by the thought of it. People really need to set their priorities better...because there are far more things that could be focused on than stuff like this.

[LlenCoram]

I've got to add "standing on tents" to my list of things to do once ARR comes back.

Things To Do:
Take 10000 pictures of grass
Bunny hop EVERYWHERE
Backpedal through every city all the time
+Standing on tents

There we go.

[Aion]

I've got to add "standing on tents" to my list of things to do once ARR comes back.

Things To Do:
Take 10000 pictures of grass
Bunny hop EVERYWHERE
Backpedal through every city all the time
+Standing on tents

There we go.

yep, Im gonna do that also

ah, lets make a thread for that later

[Kallera]

I've got to add "standing on tents" to my list of things to do once ARR comes back.

Things To Do:
Take 10000 pictures of grass
Bunny hop EVERYWHERE
Backpedal through every city all the time
+Standing on tents

There we go.

There's a contest in there somewhere, and I'll be proud to partake in it.

[Mjollnir]

Making a Lalafell isn't relevant to me, so why is the option even there?

What if my one wish in life is to create armor while atop a tent? WHY YOU GOTTA KEEP ME DOWN?

Talking in the context of the characters that we're playing, not in the context of the players.

Seriously though, a lot of people seem to get "I dislike something" with "THIS IS THE WORST THING EVER OMG CHANGE IT!" mixed up on these forums. Like, really think about it...how much would the entire game (not just your personal experience) be hurt by allowing players to stand on a tent? We can stand on a fence, or boxes...is that fine? Why is this such a big deal? Realism? Last time I checked, nothing in this game was real, so that's a poor excuse.

The difference between believability and realism was explained pretty well a few pages ago. Realism in context.

It's ok to admit you just don't like something, there are quite a few things about this game I dislike...but I don't demand they be changed because I happen to not like them, I suck it up and deal with it.

On the contrary, I contribute to the discussions on the forums about the things I don't like. I don't get upset when the things I don't like stay in the game if more people like those things than dislike them. I didn't like the idea of "!" appearing above quest-givers, I voiced my opinion, but more forum-users thought it would make a good addition. That's one of the purposes of the forum, so please don't insinuate that if there's something I dislike I should suck it up and deal with it just because that's what you choose to do.

People were able to stand on platforms they normally weren't able to in Final Fantasy XI (such as "falling off" the airship), and I don't recall people getting super offended by the thought of it.

But everyone was aware that it was a minor fuck-up in the game and not by design. Same goes for the 'hovering' a few yalms past the edge of a step. Would have been better if it didn't happen, but was hardly one of the major faults of FFXI.

People really need to set their priorities better...because there are far more things that could be focused on than stuff like this.

That haven't had their own threads made and discussed fully? I don't think so. Prove me wrong, start a thread about it.

Reindeer suit, egg hats, moogle weapons, stabbing a TREE to death.

I'd say adventurers are quite open to dumb ideas. Jumping on tents seems quite tame.

Yeah, perhaps dumb was the wrong word. Maybe I should have said 'unnecessary'. However, the things you mention still make sense in context of the characters. Except the reindeer suit. Those should be burned.

[LlenCoram]

There's a contest in there somewhere, and I'll be proud to partake in it.

You're on!