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    As much as I'm loving the alpha videos...

    ...I do kind of wish they'd show a little more actual gameplay. As in, battling, quests, enemies, dungeons, any dungeon puzzles?, chocobo combat/breeding, Housing (Even just the GC stuff since I heard they said individual housing wont be available at launch?), etc...

    I love the scenery, don't get me wrong...but do you think just showing off the scenery to potential new players is going to draw them in? People will simply be thinking that this is nothing more than a repeat of it's first launch if all they see is a character walking around the town.

    Or are the features I'm looking for going to come with beta? I'm possibly just jumping the gun here. I understand alpha tests are mostly just stress tests...and that Squareenix wants to have plenty of surprises but still...do you think they're being a bit too secretive with gameplay?
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    level cap is lv20 at alpha, its not really flashy at early game, that will make terrible video.
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    Yea I agree but we''ll be able to play alpha soon and global alpha video I'm sure it will be leaked with battles.
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    I also doubt that Housing, Chocobo combat/breeding etc will make it into ARR on launchday. Most likely in later patches. So for them to show off those features in Alpha is probably asking a bit too much.

    I do hope players dont hype themselves up way too much expecting every features shown to us, will make it Live, the day ARR launches.
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    I think they're saving all that to the beta.
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    As much as I love the alpha videos, I wish they would let people outside of Japan play it. I thought we would have heard something by now if it was happening on the 26th.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spy View Post
    I'm possibly just jumping the tent here.
    Fixed that for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spy View Post
    ...I do kind of wish they'd show a little more actual gameplay. As in, battling, quests, enemies, dungeons, any dungeon puzzles?, chocobo combat/breeding, Housing (Even just the GC stuff since I heard they said individual housing wont be available at launch?), etc...

    I love the scenery, don't get me wrong...but do you think just showing off the scenery to potential new players is going to draw them in? People will simply be thinking that this is nothing more than a repeat of it's first launch if all they see is a character walking around the town.

    Or are the features I'm looking for going to come with beta? I'm possibly just jumping the gun here. I understand alpha tests are mostly just stress tests...and that Squareenix wants to have plenty of surprises but still...do you think they're being a bit too secretive with gameplay?
    Half of what you said will not be in alpha, like dungeons, chocobo combat/breeding, housing and GC stuff, what they are looking for is stress tests and making sure the basics work (you can fight, all actions work, you aren't falling through the floor every step, and most importantly jump works) They may have some quests in but not many, if you want to see battle and enemies look at the gameplay trailers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spy View Post
    ...I do kind of wish they'd show a little more actual gameplay. As in, battling, quests, enemies, dungeons, any dungeon puzzles?
    Allow me to demystify these for you.

    battling
    You seen the first live letter regarding ARR? You seen the battle. Nothing new, nothing exciting, still very awkward looking and DPS on weapons have changed.

    quests
    Have you played Aion? World of Warcraft? Rappelz? SWTOR? Tera? Eden Eternal? Hello Kitty Online? Ultima Online? Anarchy Online? DAoC? Warhammer Online? Guild Wars 2? You seen the quest system.

    enemies
    Same enemies as 1.0, you barely get xp from them, they're just zone eyecandy, worthless entities. Oh and a Soulflayer boss, which if you played FFXI you already know what to expect and how they look.

    dungeons + dungeon puzzles
    Played Dungeons and Dragons online?

    All in all, If you played MMOs before you know how ARR's gameplay already is without seeing it, especially as of now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    Half of what you said will not be in alpha, like dungeons
    There's much more in Alpha than you think.
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    Those things I listed were just examples....I didnt mean they had to show those that I specified exactly...I meant for them to actually start showing what's going to keep the players...oh...I dunno...playing the game....

    I hate sounding [sarcastic?],[negative?] (can't think of the proper word here), but they're releasing these videos out to the public. If they're doing this thinking, "Oh, they'll know that since it's an mmo, it's just gonna play like every other" then they have even worse marketing skills than I originally thought.

    I dunno about you, but I thought they were actually trying to save this title by bringing in more subscriptions.

    You and I know most of the good things that they've brought and are planning to bring, but they're not really informing the people who haven't/wont play(ed) this game or gave up on it after experiencing it's failed launch or just dont stay updated nearly every day about this title like we do.

    I've skimmed other mmo forums for discussions on this game, and what I see from a lot of the players is, 'oh wow...they added jumping...because that's new...', 'squareenix has never failed with graphics...but where's the gameplay?' kind of stuff.

    Even if they showed some of the things that were already added in the game. Like maybe a clip of players doing the chocobo caravan escort, or a clip of hamlet, or what a new primal fight might be like (Maybe show a wandering primal?), and those are just the tip of ideas they could probably use without spoiling it. (I still don't understand why they have to be so secretive...if they raise hype up too much like they did with 1.0, and people are let down again (though honestly, after playing the game until the end, I dont see it failing as hard as launch), then they're in for a world of hurt (financially))

    Granted, they did release that one trailer of the characters going through a dungeon and facing the dragon and showing off the limit break. That's what I believe they need to show more of. Stuff like that. That was, in my opinion, the best trailer for 2.0 that they've done so far.

    BUT! I also feel as though I AM jumping the gun (or tent lol) expecting so much out of alpha. I believe I'm being impatient and that could be clouding my judgement. After all, these are just alpha videos. I just pray that future trailers/videos might emphasize a little more on action.

    It's just frustrating...I want to see this game succeed...I know it has the potential to.

    Also please keep in mind that I'm not complaining that they are granting us, who are unable to have access to alpha, footage of the game. But complaining that since the game is being reborn (instead of just being a stand alone, brand new mmo) they should focus a little more effort on appealing to new players instead of the current players who await 2.0 with heightened breath (I do believe I used the wrong expression here, but you get the idea).
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