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    Will we/Can we have these Final Fantasy items?

    I'm talking about Phoenix Downs, hi-potions, mega potions, ethers, remedys, tents, etc.

    I noticed in the game we do have potions (i.e. Ice Potion), but they are a novelty at best that only cure about 100-200HP. I've not seen any phoenix downs, or any other effective items that help cure status ailments or HP/MP in a way that can help someone in solo-play or in parties where the WHM is tied up or out of MP.

    Is there a reason why we don't see these items? Will they be in 2.0? I think this would add a little more wiggle-room as far as how parties are set up. For example, if a BLM had some ethers, then when MP runs out mid-battle they can have one or two and get back into the game. Or if your job doesn't have Raise, a phoenix down would do this for a fallen party member. If you are adventuring with two friends and you're something like MNK, LNC, ARC - you can still cure each other with potions.
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    Phoenix Downs - Existed since 1.0.

    Hi-Potions - Existed since 1.0

    Mega Potions - Existed since 1.0

    Ethers - Existed since 1.0

    Remedies - Existed since 1.0

    Tents - Hopefully.

    Etc - Pretty much the majority of medicines found in all FF games (including XI) existed in XIV in some fashion except for the ones that induced certain status effects like mini/berserk etc. I think why you probably rarely seen them is because the general playerbase sucked and didn't actually carry these items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Phoenix Downs - Existed since 1.0.

    Hi-Potions - Existed since 1.0

    Mega Potions - Existed since 1.0

    Ethers - Existed since 1.0

    Remedies - Existed since 1.0

    Tents - Hopefully.

    Etc - Pretty much the majority of medicines found in all FF games (including XI) existed in XIV in some fashion except for the ones that induced certain status effects like mini/berserk etc. I think why you probably rarely seen them is because the general playerbase sucked and didn't actually carry these items.
    I don't see any recipes for these items and have never been in a party where someone had used a phoenix down to raise another party member. I know I have seen potions and ethers in-game, but again they only restore a few HP and are not really effective at mid to end game.

    @Felis: If they are available through the GC, were they easily obtainable, or were they rather expensive? I'd assume with a small fortune you should be able to keep a dozen or so phoenix downs and hi-potions on hand for battle purposes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uriahnool View Post
    I don't see any recipes for these items and have never been in a party where someone had used a phoenix down to raise another party member. I know I have seen potions and ethers in-game, but again they only restore a few HP and are not really effective at mid to end game.
    Yep..which is why I said you rarely seen because people rarely carried. The phoenix downs are from the GC for 215 total iirc, there's 2: 1 that's 100% revive and 1 that is a chance to revive.

    For example:

    http://mooglebox.com/entries/company-issue-tonic.php

    http://mooglebox.com/includes/?tsearch=potion

    http://mooglebox.com/includes/?tsearch=ether

    http://mooglebox.com/includes/?tsearch=Elixir

    http://mooglebox.com/entries/gold-needle.php

    http://mooglebox.com/entries/heart-drops.php (these are variously named based on company but does the same thing.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    200 GC seals for "Phoenix Down" (Company Issued Tonic or something similar). People didn't really use items like that in normal EXP parties but raise items, STR potions and Elixirs (especially when they were dropped by imperials for free) were really useful in eg stuff.
    Even then you had people not carry em :\ they can make or break an unfortunate screw up lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Even then you had people not carry em :\ they can make or break an unfortunate screw up lol.
    You were playing with the wrong people. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uriahnool View Post
    I don't see any recipes for these items and have never been in a party where someone had used a phoenix down to raise another party member. I know I have seen potions and ethers in-game, but again they only restore a few HP and are not really effective at mid to end game.

    @Felis: If they are available through the GC, were they easily obtainable, or were they rather expensive? I'd assume with a small fortune you should be able to keep a dozen or so phoenix downs and hi-potions on hand for battle purposes.
    Check for those names in Mooglebox: Hi-Potion, Mega Potion, Ether, they are there. We don't have the Remedy item itself but we have various different remedies for certain statuses in particular. Even Golden Needles.
    I do know that while levelling, at least, I had extensive usage of Hi-Potions and Ethers with my Gladiator and Thaumaturge, then again i'm an Alchemist myself so I had a stockpile of those.

    And let's not forget the Elixir. Nael Van Darnus, first stage of the fight, Paladin goes down, Dragoon has all the aggro. What do I use to tank Nael for he party to finish killing it? Why, of course, Dread Spikes, Second Wind and Elixir. God that Elixir, I love it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skies View Post
    I do know that while levelling, at least, I had extensive usage of Hi-Potions and Ethers with my Gladiator and Thaumaturge, then again i'm an Alchemist myself so I had a stockpile of those.
    you do know that you can use cure while on GLA or THM
    do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rina_inverse View Post
    you do know that you can use cure while on GLA or THM
    do you?
    Of course. Did I ever mention how that was never sufficient?
    Actually, you can't really cure your MP with THM, and Ethers are pretty useful for that, at least when levelling. I actually did Leves for levelling so sitting still for a while to wait for MP to recover was generally not a good idea, though it tended to work better when I was in a party.
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    Phoenix Down is already here, but as a potion. You can buy it in the company store for seals.
    but it wouldn't be bad if SE rename the potion in Phoenix Down.
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    200 GC seals for "Phoenix Down" (Company Issued Tonic or something similar). People didn't really use items like that in normal EXP parties but raise items, STR potions and Elixirs (especially when they were dropped by imperials for free) were really useful in eg stuff.
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