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[Arcell]

Yes. Really. The current ones are fine.

You mean to tell me that you think THIS is perfectly fine and acceptable? If you really do then I guess there's really no convincing someone with no dance taste.

[Warlock]

You mean to tell me that you think THIS is perfectly fine and acceptable? If you really do then I guess there's really no convincing someone with no dance taste.

Well what would you expect a big bulky creature to do as dance? Do you want them to do the robot to cheapen the game?

[Arcell]

Well what would you expect a big bulky creature to do as dance? Do you want them to do the robot to cheapen the game?

Did I say that? No. I said that the current dances are unacceptable. Big and bulky as they are, as KiriA has mentioned, they're capable of doing some pretty incredible acrobatics in other parts of the game. They could have a dance that suits them but it should be better than that. I would hardly even qualify that as a dance. It's just an awkward shuffling of the feet.

[Preypacer]

Did I say that? No. I said that the current dances are unacceptable. Big and bulky as they are, as KiriA has mentioned, they're capable of doing some pretty incredible acrobatics in other parts of the game. They could have a dance that suits them but it should be better than that. I would hardly even qualify that as a dance. It's just an awkward shuffling of the feet.

Again, those are combat maneuvers tied to jobs/classes and shared across all races, requiring a build-up of "energy" (TP) to perform. Or, they have cool-downs, which (in a lore perspective, not gameplay mechanics/balance) would indicate they require more energy at once than any character, regardless of race, is capable of mustering in quick succession.

Emotes are race-specific and are more in line with the culture/personality/physicality of the race itself. Roegadynn are a huge, hulking mass. They're a walking brick-house. They are not going to have the flexibility or "light toes" of a smaller, lighter race. Watching their emotes, they seem to be just about what I would expect from a race of their composition, though I will agree some can use some livening up.

Can SE push the Roeg emotes a bit more? Absolutely, I'm sure they could. I would expect that, whatever SE does, it would still be less "animated" than what you'd see from a Miqo'te or Lalafell, or even a highlander.

[Davorok]

Lazy Casuals!....in FF MMO you make your own /dance move...

FFXI Nofrog Linkshell Caitsith (Nom Nom Nom Nom Dance)



or maybe you prefer this?

[MMD] Groovy Dancin' Firi - FFXI Style

[Preypacer]

You mean to tell me that you think THIS is perfectly fine and acceptable? If you really do then I guess there's really no convincing someone with no dance taste.

Considering it's a big, bulky race that doesn't exactly give the impression of being "light on their feet", I think it works well enough. Looking at a number of their emotes, they seem to carry that same sense of "weight". They're not exactly lithe or limber like a Miqo'te or even an Elezen. Could SE put a little more "oomph" into it? Sure. But they could do that with what's there now.. they don't need to start bringing in real world meme dances like some are suggesting.

[KiriA500]

Considering it's a big, bulky race that doesn't exactly give the impression of being "light on their feet", I think it works well enough. Looking at a number of their emotes, they seem to carry that same sense of "weight". They're not exactly lithe or limber like a Miqo'te or even an Elezen. Could SE put a little more "oomph" into it? Sure. But they could do that with what's there now.. they don't need to start bringing in real world meme dances like some are suggesting.

Roegadyn are limber enough to do a flip while using Gorging Blade, jump into the a good 6 feet for Aura Pulse, jump into the air and shoot arrows downward with Wide Volley, twirl around several times with an axe with Steel Cyclone, perform a backflip to reduce enmity with Elusive Jump, punch an enemy several times including a flip attack with Simian Thrash, etc., yet they're not capable of perform any kind of dance aside from clomping their GIGANTIC MEATY LIMBS ON THE GROUND HULK SMASH?

Our /happy emote has us bouncing all over the place (it's one of the very few emotes I actually enjoy), why can't more do this?

[Preypacer]

Roegadyn are limber enough to do a flip while using Gorging Blade, jump into the a good 6 feet for Aura Pulse, jump into the air and shoot arrows downward with Wide Volley, twirl around several times with an axe with Steel Cyclone, perform a backflip to reduce enmity with Elusive Jump, punch an enemy several times including a flip attack with Simian Thrash, etc., yet they're not capable of perform any kind of dance aside from clomping their GIGANTIC MEATY LIMBS ON THE GROUND HULK SMASH?

Our /happy emote has us bouncing all over the place (it's one of the very few emotes I actually enjoy), why can't more do this?

lol I'm not disagreeing with you entirely. Calm down.

First of all, the attacks you're describing are the same for all races (with some variation). Those are weapon skills or special combat maneuvers tied to Classes/Jobs, not race. Several of them only occur when a high amount of "energy" (TP) is built up. Otherwise they have a cool-down. They're not emotes done when casually standing around and relaxed. I'd hardly put emotes and WS's/Combat Moves in the same category.

I get it. The Roegadynn emotes are too stiff and lifeless for you. That's why I said put a bit more "oomph" into them, but keep them looking appropriate for the race (maintain that sense of weight and size).

Seeing a huge brick wall of a character bouncing around with the same lithe grace of a Miqo'te who's a fraction of their size and weight would look ridiculous.

More poignantly and on-topic, please no real world meme-style dances. Keep it unique to the world/cultures of FFXIV.

[KiriA500]

lol I'm not disagreeing with you entirely. Calm down.

First of all, the attacks you're describing are the same for all races (with some variation). Those are weapon skills or special combat maneuvers tied to Classes/Jobs, not race. Several of them only occur when a high amount of "energy" (TP) is built up. Otherwise they have a cool-down. They're not emotes done when casually standing around and relaxed. I'd hardly put emotes and WS's/Combat Moves in the same category.

I get it. The Roegadynn emotes are too stiff and lifeless for you. That's why I said put a bit more "oomph" into them, but keep them looking appropriate for the race (maintain that sense of weight and size).

Seeing a huge brick wall of a character bouncing around with the same lithe grace of a Miqo'te who's a fraction of their size and weight would look ridiculous.

More poignantly and on-topic, please no real world meme-style dances. Keep it unique to the world/cultures of FFXIV.

So, simply because we're a bigger than Miqo'te, we have to be slow. I'm not asking to have Roegadyn bounce around like 14 year old Japanese girls, that's already taken. We can still have a little energy.



We're barely taller than Elezen, we just have more muscle mass. we don't have to be the hulking brute race simply because we have big muscles.

[Preypacer]

So, simply because we're a bigger than Miqo'te, we have to be slow. I'm not asking to have Roegadyn bounce around like 14 year old Japanese girls, that's already taken. We can still have a little energy.

We're barely taller than Elezen, we just have more muscle mass. we don't have to be the hulking brute race simply because we have big muscles.

omg.. seriously?

I have already agreed that some of the Roegadyn emotes could use a bit more "oomph", as in, energy, animation, etc. I am mostly agreeing with you, for crying out loud. It's only the specific implementation that I disagree on. What are you still carrying on about it for?

Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing now? Looking for any little detail you can find to argue over, just to keep it going? Seriously. I feel like I'm just being trolled at this point.

That said, Yes... because you are a huge, hulking mass of muscle that is easily several times heavier and more massive than a Miqo'te, I don't expect you'd be able to move with the same kind of grace or fluidity or speed as one. It would look ridiculously out of place. I'm pretty sure I already said that... and, unless you've been living under a rock for your entire life, I shouldn't have to explain why.

What exactly are you even trying to prove at this point? You've stated your case, several times now. I agree with you on some parts of it, but not on others. We'll agree to disagree on those. Capisce? Or are you going to find some other detail to nit-pick into another argument now?

Good freaking grief.