Romance in Eorzea, you and the community

[Shougun]

Life in Eorzea

A few common sentences I've seen recently I hope to address in this thread.

But first this thread isnt about SM/SSM (straight/same sex/marriage) - we have a thread for that already - please post there (here).

I've noticed in general but in particular about marriage thread people suggest that something is pointless and not worth talking about / including in game. (Marriage is a dev confirmed addition)

Please remember that most people admit the priority on non directly influencing gameplay items as low in their posts (roots thread) as FFXIV really needs more gameplay elements at this time. However keep in mind an MMO and most definitely an MMORPG is a world far greater then just how long you've spent getting your relic. When people remissness and have the nostalgia they also mention environment* and community (* environment is commonly disregarded though its proper usage is profound and has effect for the entirety of the games life).

Perfect is only made through perfection.

Now as I said this post is in particular about romance* and community.
*I submitted on accident so the title misrepresents the point a bit. Take a very vague social and compassionate approach to romance and not a lovers approach (will make reading make more sense.. lol)

This is a place where not only do we play but we play together, SE needs to build a strong foundation for our community to socialize and grow together. It should be self evident that a game that requires great team work and is placed in a world of thousands of people should have the necessary tools for social occasions, but I feel players often forget that "other people are out there". I think particular in this community as everyone dug into their static LS and got sour because of how the game turned out - but lets make sure ARR is not so.

Beyond the obvious "good community support is good" it is a Square Enix, Final Fantasy hallmark to work with friends and loved ones to accomplish the impossible (Every final fantasy either has one or both elements (teamwork/friends, love)).

When they add marriage** and some community members response is "bullshit" its quite sad - no I'm probably not going to use it, but adding community support to a game genre and a game series that lives and breaths compassion is 100% logical.

**

Most of the community recognizes in order to create the best atmosphere for everyone and make the most sense as per FFXIV lore the name should be changed and ceremonies accordingly.

In general the community has also said that it would be convenient if this system included a close relational bond that doesn't mean love in a romantic way (brother/sister close kinship). More about marriage/kinship bonding/weddings should be discussed in those threads

**

The priority on getting a well realized and fitting system (which is extremely important) is currently low (priority), however the system should most definitely be on the to do list and it should be done well.


Other social systems beyond this one should also being considered (or should be).
- Chocobo races (dev considering)
- Holiday calendar (dev confirmed)
- Interactive app for smart phones (dev confirmed (features not 100% known))
- Marriage (Dev confirmed, community opinon requested - check specific thread to debate)
- RSS like feed for Free Companies (confirmed)


If anyone has any suggestions for better social play if you put them here I'll add them to the list. Otherwise please make another thread - and ignore those who don't strive for perfection ("too small").

All that being said this isn't a "SE should have everything done and everything done now" thread, things take time - be patient SE is trying as hard as they can as fast as they can, our job is to do as the forums where designed and give feedback (and make a great community ), lets continue to do that.

In final words, or tl;dr. Final Fantasy games are about teamwork, character, passion, compassion, and saving the damn world. Lets make sure ARR can be called a true Final Fantasy and that it earns its numbers and stop attacking each other for trying to help. We need to stick together.


FF:
Pictures so pixely your imagination does better (trololo):

FFI-III - Team work (dont think there was romance for any main character)
FFIV - Cecil, Rosa, Kain
FF V - Team work
FF VI - Locke, Celes

FF7

http://youtu.be/h5oF1es9bFQ Cloud X Tifa (mostly)
http://youtu.be/sxa8nLDqX_c Cloud X Aerith
http://youtu.be/afQAMyX_qIU Zack X Aerith
http://youtu.be/TdQBXa55WeA Vincent X Lucrecia (made obvious in Dirge of Cerberus)

FF8

http://youtu.be/ohQ_AiW9bvo Squall X Rinoa

FF9

http://youtu.be/CNZOCBaFtFwZidane X Garnet

FF10

http://youtu.be/xlwSPMwAqbM Tidus X Yuna

FF11

http://youtu.be/VuM8ZEXdaUk

FF12

lol

http://youtu.be/5XT5PYjDj_IVaan X Penelo (relationship mostly in Revenant wings)

FF13

http://youtu.be/uER8JpaKtt4Snow X Serah

FF14

[Quesse]

**The community recognizes in order to create the best atmosphere for everyone and make the most sense as per FFXIV lore the name should be changed and ceremonies accordingly.

Please don't put words in my mouth, I don't agree with this. >.>;

Also I didn't really see anything about romance in your thread. I'm not sure I follow. You seem to be asking that SE focus more on the massive-multiplayer and less on the roleplaying-game? I think social is important but without the latter it becomes something like second-life. The gameplay and its framework must come first! After all when it comes to the social aspect, SE can only do so much - its up to the community and each of us to make it into something worthwhile and meaningful. Maybe your question should be - what can the community do to make FFXIV something more involving/social for its players?

[Hyrist]

>.>

I do have to say there was some romantic tension between myself an my Miqo'te Path Companion.

I do ever so hope she returns. As I recall she owes me some... gratitude.

[fusional]

ff12 didn't really have a central love theme or story arc, and i really appreciated that about it. you had some implied flirting between vaan and penelo, and it was clear enough that balthier and fran were an item, but none of it really had any impact on the story. i think that's an important distinction.

[Shougun]

Please don't put words in my mouth, I don't agree with this. >.>;

Also I didn't really see anything about romance in your thread. I'm not sure I follow. You seem to be asking that SE focus more on the massive-multi and less on the roleplaying-game? I think social is important but without the latter it becomes something like second-life. The gameplay and its framework must come first! After all when it comes to the social aspect, SE can only do so much - its up to the community and each of us to make it into something worthwhile and meaningful.

I changed it to "most" people. Still editing lol - Accidently hit submit instead of preview >.>

Marriage is a part of romance - but friends are too. Like I said I didnt mean to hit submit I was thinking of changing title to Social lol

And I said gameplay must come as well - but people saying "never let social come" are being extremely silly.

[Quesse]

I changed it to "most" people. Still editing lol - Accidently hit submit instead of preview >.>

Marriage is a part of romance - but friends are too. Like I said I didnt mean to hit submit I was thinking of changing title to Social lol

And I said gameplay must come as well - but people saying "never let social come" are being extremely silly.

I'm editing too Look at other thought about the community needing to contribute more. Still I think 'romantic' might be the right word just not the primary definition. Maybe more like #4 or #5?

ro·man·tic (r-mntk)
adj.
1. Of, relating to, or characteristic of romance.
2. Given to thoughts or feelings of romance. See Synonyms at sentimental.
3. Displaying, expressive of, or conducive to love: a romantic atmosphere.
4. Imaginative but impractical; visionary: romantic notions.
5. Not based on fact; imaginary or fictitious: His memoirs were criticized as a romantic view of the past.
6. often Romantic Of or characteristic of romanticism in the arts.

[Hyrist]

ff12 didn't really have a central love theme or story arc, and i really appreciated that about it. you had some implied flirting between vaan and penelo, and it was clear enough that balthier and fran were an item, but none of it really had any impact on the story. i think that's an important distinction.

I know the popular thing is to lothe on FFXIII, but there was a subtle, hinted romance on top of the obvious one in that game as well. Which I found to be the better one and quite a nice step for SE to take.

[Heavens]

I need a mate in-game. Any takers?

[Shougun]

I'm editing too Look at other thought about the community needing to contribute more. Still I think 'romantic' might be the right word just not the primary definition. Maybe more like #4 or #5?

ro·man·tic (r-mntk)
adj.
1. Of, relating to, or characteristic of romance.
2. Given to thoughts or feelings of romance. See Synonyms at sentimental.
3. Displaying, expressive of, or conducive to love: a romantic atmosphere.
4. Imaginative but impractical; visionary: romantic notions.
5. Not based on fact; imaginary or fictitious: His memoirs were criticized as a romantic view of the past.
6. often Romantic Of or characteristic of romanticism in the arts.

Lol thanks I'll goes with an obscure definition to make it work too late to change it now XDDD

@The last bit of your update.

It is an excellent question - I think SE offering the tools and abilities to express yourself is excellent start but obviously not the end. We cant tell them to make us friendly. "I'm paying you to make me a nice person to talk to !"

Also a part of the community (that I addressed in the OP) was that its sad the community is so burnt on FFXIV that if its not strictly gameplay content they are not happy. Like the response to marriage being added wasnt "Oh I'll never use it but okay w.e Im going to find another topic to look at" and is instead "stupid, lets get rid of all of it"

But SE can do what they can while we do what we can. I would like to talk about what the community can do as well.

[Rau]

I know the popular thing is to lothe on FFXIII, but there was a subtle, hinted romance on top of the obvious one in that game as well. Which I found to be the better one and quite a nice step for SE to take.

Are you talking about Vanille and Fang? Or light and Hope? Hope needed a mother figure. Lightning was the first person there to support him in that role.