Keep Us Informed

[Cichy]

Really? wow hmm did you forget we have a FFXIV forums? when FFXI did not have that for years? and only got it onces they have to rebuild FFXIV? so ya i think they giving us enough information what do you want? a full book on everything going to happen in the next 10years to make you happy?

I mean come on -.- we have enough information if they give us anymore they wont be anything else to tell us in the next few month then we be really bored wishing we did not get that information.

You are comparing XIV to XI, both SE games and both examples of terrible communication. Both games terrible examples of marketing. And than you throw in this forum to the mix in which 80% of devs reply has been: we're working on it, we're looking into it, we cant discuss this at the moment, etc. They promised us weekly updates back in August and that failed. Servers went down with "we're working on it" yet again as a reply to comfort the customers.

SE doesn't know how to keep a momentum. The end of an era trailer was amazing but I bet you in couple of weeks most people will cool off and yet again we will go back to a dry spell. Look at all the previous instances. The game show videos, etc. It's always one step forward two steps back with SE.

Now don't get me wrong. XIV is the only MMO I've been playing since XI and only one I plan on playing. However, Tera, GW2, Rift, SWTORetc all had very transparent campaigns. GW2 turned out to be a disappointment from what I hear and the other two leaked subscribers very quickly. Does not change the fact that all of them sold a very large amount of copies and they are widely recognized titles. Ultimately, that's what XIV needs to do. It needs to sell millions of copies and they need to sell them to new customer because guess what. We already own a copy.

Facts are that XIV is still viewed as a failure. It still remains in the shadows. We know alpha will start on the 26th but that's it. The new timeline should been released with the new trailer. They have plenty of concept art, lore bits, screenshots, and other stuff they could be releasing weekly to keep people buzzing about the game. The latest producer letter was very disappointing as it rehashed most of the stuff we already knew.

It's a tough market out there and if SE wants to sell the game that charges monthly fee they need to amaze the average player. So far they been doing poor job with it.

[Elexia]

You are comparing XIV to XI, both SE games and both examples of terrible communication. Both games terrible examples of marketing.

If by terrible marketing you mean in the west, yes. Remember, XI originally wasn't even going to touch western shores until they decided on a Windows port and western gamers were more PC centric. In terms of other games though, they do well on marketing (could do better) but we can't really forget how pretty much all of their major titles sold purely based on 1 commercial alone lol, they never really needed a large campaign for their games before, but nowadays they do for their MMO for sure, especially since this is a second chance for a game that already failed.

Honestly, all they really need to do is slap it on steam from the get go too since XI on steam actually got decent sales and the preferred way to get it from what I seen with people who started joining around Abyssea.

[Zenaku]

You are comparing XIV to XI, both SE games and both examples of terrible communication. Both games terrible examples of marketing. And than you throw in this forum to the mix in which 80% of devs reply has been: we're working on it, we're looking into it, we cant discuss this at the moment, etc. They promised us weekly updates back in August and that failed. Servers went down with "we're working on it" yet again as a reply to comfort the customers.

SE doesn't know how to keep a momentum. The end of an era trailer was amazing but I bet you in couple of weeks most people will cool off and yet again we will go back to a dry spell. Look at all the previous instances. The game show videos, etc. It's always one step forward two steps back with SE.

Now don't get me wrong. XIV is the only MMO I've been playing since XI and only one I plan on playing. However, Tera, GW2, Rift, SWTORetc all had very transparent campaigns. GW2 turned out to be a disappointment from what I hear and the other two leaked subscribers very quickly. Does not change the fact that all of them sold a very large amount of copies and they are widely recognized titles. Ultimately, that's what XIV needs to do. It needs to sell millions of copies and they need to sell them to new customer because guess what. We already own a copy.

Facts are that XIV is still viewed as a failure. It still remains in the shadows. We know alpha will start on the 26th but that's it. The new timeline should been released with the new trailer. They have plenty of concept art, lore bits, screenshots, and other stuff they could be releasing weekly to keep people buzzing about the game. The latest producer letter was very disappointing as it rehashed most of the stuff we already knew.

It's a tough market out there and if SE wants to sell the game that charges monthly fee they need to amaze the average player. So far they been doing poor job with it.

SE is changing one step at a time we wont even be talking right now if this was 2years ago SE lol so clam down and enjoy what they give us and wait for more information if that all you want.

Remember SE selling point would always be JP so get over it they never going to waste a big amount of money like they do in JP. JP had awesome tv ad for FFXIV lol maybe we get one here and people wont care why? becuase no one really see TV anymore but i hope they spam the shit out of it on Youtube that would get more western players.

Also i did not read half your post because i'm not going to read a wall of text you could have really said all that in a very short comment keep it simple please. Sure when people cool off we hit other dry spell who cares ffxiv no where near release so information not going to come out that fast when we closer to release i bet they do much better at release.

yoshi-p know what he doing so don't worry and remember NA is not the main selling point for FFXIV sure yoshi-p keep saying he want to get more players but sadly wow players jump to ffxiv 2.0 and leave in a few month so people who never played a final fantasy mmo is the sell point or someone who never play a mmo to start with.

[Cichy]

SE is changing one step at a time we wont even be talking right now if this was 2years ago SE lol so clam down and enjoy what they give us and wait for more information if that all you want.

Remember SE selling point would always be JP so get over it they never going to waste a big amount of money like they do in JP. JP had awesome tv ad for FFXIV lol maybe we get one here and people wont care why? becuase no one really see TV anymore but i hope they spam the shit out of it on Youtube that would get more western players.

Also i did not read half your post because i'm not going to read a wall of text you could have really said all that in a very short comment keep it simple please. Sure when people cool off we hit other dry spell who cares ffxiv no where near release so information not going to come out that fast when we closer to release i bet they do much better at release.

yoshi-p know what he doing so don't worry and remember NA is not the main selling point for FFXIV sure yoshi-p keep saying he want to get more players but sadly wow players jump to ffxiv 2.0 and leave in a few month so people who never played a final fantasy mmo is the sell point or someone who never play a mmo to start with.

You're completely delusional. XIV sold more copies outside of Japan for your information and not only XIV is in trouble. Entire Final Fantasy brand is in trouble. Wada publicly apologized if you don't remember. You're basically saying they should keep doing same thing and ignore western market. A completely idiotic idea all together. If SE plans on making money they need a strong foot in western market. If XIV doesn't make enough money they will abandon any plans of making expansions or supporting it. There is not going to be 3.0.

You tell me to keep it short and simple and you go on white knighting for two more paragraphs. Come on buddy, who made you a GM here?

[Zenaku]

You're completely delusional. XIV sold more copies outside of Japan for your information and not only XIV is in trouble. Entire Final Fantasy brand is in trouble. Wada publicly apologized if you don't remember. You're basically saying they should keep doing same thing and ignore western market. A completely idiotic idea all together. If SE plans on making money they need a strong foot in western market. If XIV doesn't make enough money they will abandon any plans of making expansions or supporting it. There is not going to be 3.0.

You tell me to keep it short and simple and you go on white knighting for two more paragraphs. Come on buddy, who made you a GM here?

I never said ignore western market but the new western players just don't enjoy final fantasy like how people use too. Really people need to stop using that dumb **** white knighting how am i defending SE at all here? I'm just saying they never made a big market plan for there MMO in NA and i hope they do but i don't see it happening.

You get your videos/information when there ready to show it to us they can't fail like they did so they have to make sure it good enough to show. + we talking about a JP company that 2years ago would not even care two **** what we have to say to them and today we talking on a SE forums. The company that have ignore most of there player base is not going to change overnight they have done good so far. Yes they need a strong western market but at the end that western market would end up going to the next wow-clone or wow new update or even blizzard new mmo whenever that come out. It's better just to take what we get and not have so much high hope you just going to be disappointed if you do anything else that something i learn about SE and there not going to change anytime soon so it best to just get use to it.

@Ricky: When they said a new flood of information was coming out they did just that. They give us load of information on UI,Housing,free company and many other part of the game. It's just never enough for some people. Or more like it never the right information they looking for / amount.

and the weekly updates they give us a 2+hour video in the live letter lol i think that more then enough for the rest of the week don't you think? once alpha goes back live they make more videos.

[GodseijuroHiko]

You're completely delusional. XIV sold more copies outside of Japan for your information and not only XIV is in trouble. Entire Final Fantasy brand is in trouble. Wada publicly apologized if you don't remember. You're basically saying they should keep doing same thing and ignore western market. A completely idiotic idea all together. If SE plans on making money they need a strong foot in western market. If XIV doesn't make enough money they will abandon any plans of making expansions or supporting it. There is not going to be 3.0.

You tell me to keep it short and simple and you go on white knighting for two more paragraphs. Come on buddy, who made you a GM here?

Lol he responded to your wall of text with one of his own. So much sanctimony in this thread.

[Rizon]

SE is changing one step at a time we wont even be talking right now if this was 2years ago SE lol so clam down and enjoy what they give us and wait for more information if that all you want.

Remember SE selling point would always be JP so get over it they never going to waste a big amount of money like they do in JP. JP had awesome tv ad for FFXIV lol maybe we get one here and people wont care why? becuase no one really see TV anymore but i hope they spam the shit out of it on Youtube that would get more western players.

Also i did not read half your post because i'm not going to read a wall of text you could have really said all that in a very short comment keep it simple please. Sure when people cool off we hit other dry spell who cares ffxiv no where near release so information not going to come out that fast when we closer to release i bet they do much better at release.

yoshi-p know what he doing so don't worry and remember NA is not the main selling point for FFXIV sure yoshi-p keep saying he want to get more players but sadly wow players jump to ffxiv 2.0 and leave in a few month so people who never played a final fantasy mmo is the sell point or someone who never play a mmo to start with.

This argument would be valid if the game was only striving to be a regional game, it is not. SE is attempting to develop a global product so therefore there approach should be global. What they can get away with in Japan after the launch failure will not work in EU and NA. Most people here need to be assured that their patience will be rewarded. Information goes a long way to fulfilling that reward.

[Warlock]

This argument would be valid if the game was only striving to be a regional game, it is not. SE is attempting to develop a global product so therefore there approach should be global. What they can get away with in Japan after the launch failure will not work in EU and NA. Most people here need to be assured that their patience will be rewarded. Information goes a long way to fulfilling that reward.

I don't think it means what you think it means.
It is... you will get a month free of playtime...stop talking like they owe you