Keep Us Informed

[Cichy]

Really? wow hmm did you forget we have a FFXIV forums? when FFXI did not have that for years? and only got it onces they have to rebuild FFXIV? so ya i think they giving us enough information what do you want? a full book on everything going to happen in the next 10years to make you happy?

I mean come on -.- we have enough information if they give us anymore they wont be anything else to tell us in the next few month then we be really bored wishing we did not get that information.

You are comparing XIV to XI, both SE games and both examples of terrible communication. Both games terrible examples of marketing. And than you throw in this forum to the mix in which 80% of devs reply has been: we're working on it, we're looking into it, we cant discuss this at the moment, etc. They promised us weekly updates back in August and that failed. Servers went down with "we're working on it" yet again as a reply to comfort the customers.

SE doesn't know how to keep a momentum. The end of an era trailer was amazing but I bet you in couple of weeks most people will cool off and yet again we will go back to a dry spell. Look at all the previous instances. The game show videos, etc. It's always one step forward two steps back with SE.

Now don't get me wrong. XIV is the only MMO I've been playing since XI and only one I plan on playing. However, Tera, GW2, Rift, SWTORetc all had very transparent campaigns. GW2 turned out to be a disappointment from what I hear and the other two leaked subscribers very quickly. Does not change the fact that all of them sold a very large amount of copies and they are widely recognized titles. Ultimately, that's what XIV needs to do. It needs to sell millions of copies and they need to sell them to new customer because guess what. We already own a copy.

Facts are that XIV is still viewed as a failure. It still remains in the shadows. We know alpha will start on the 26th but that's it. The new timeline should been released with the new trailer. They have plenty of concept art, lore bits, screenshots, and other stuff they could be releasing weekly to keep people buzzing about the game. The latest producer letter was very disappointing as it rehashed most of the stuff we already knew.

It's a tough market out there and if SE wants to sell the game that charges monthly fee they need to amaze the average player. So far they been doing poor job with it.

[Elexia]

You are comparing XIV to XI, both SE games and both examples of terrible communication. Both games terrible examples of marketing.

If by terrible marketing you mean in the west, yes. Remember, XI originally wasn't even going to touch western shores until they decided on a Windows port and western gamers were more PC centric. In terms of other games though, they do well on marketing (could do better) but we can't really forget how pretty much all of their major titles sold purely based on 1 commercial alone lol, they never really needed a large campaign for their games before, but nowadays they do for their MMO for sure, especially since this is a second chance for a game that already failed.

Honestly, all they really need to do is slap it on steam from the get go too since XI on steam actually got decent sales and the preferred way to get it from what I seen with people who started joining around Abyssea.

[Zenaku]

You are comparing XIV to XI, both SE games and both examples of terrible communication. Both games terrible examples of marketing. And than you throw in this forum to the mix in which 80% of devs reply has been: we're working on it, we're looking into it, we cant discuss this at the moment, etc. They promised us weekly updates back in August and that failed. Servers went down with "we're working on it" yet again as a reply to comfort the customers.

SE doesn't know how to keep a momentum. The end of an era trailer was amazing but I bet you in couple of weeks most people will cool off and yet again we will go back to a dry spell. Look at all the previous instances. The game show videos, etc. It's always one step forward two steps back with SE.

Now don't get me wrong. XIV is the only MMO I've been playing since XI and only one I plan on playing. However, Tera, GW2, Rift, SWTORetc all had very transparent campaigns. GW2 turned out to be a disappointment from what I hear and the other two leaked subscribers very quickly. Does not change the fact that all of them sold a very large amount of copies and they are widely recognized titles. Ultimately, that's what XIV needs to do. It needs to sell millions of copies and they need to sell them to new customer because guess what. We already own a copy.

Facts are that XIV is still viewed as a failure. It still remains in the shadows. We know alpha will start on the 26th but that's it. The new timeline should been released with the new trailer. They have plenty of concept art, lore bits, screenshots, and other stuff they could be releasing weekly to keep people buzzing about the game. The latest producer letter was very disappointing as it rehashed most of the stuff we already knew.

It's a tough market out there and if SE wants to sell the game that charges monthly fee they need to amaze the average player. So far they been doing poor job with it.

SE is changing one step at a time we wont even be talking right now if this was 2years ago SE lol so clam down and enjoy what they give us and wait for more information if that all you want.

Remember SE selling point would always be JP so get over it they never going to waste a big amount of money like they do in JP. JP had awesome tv ad for FFXIV lol maybe we get one here and people wont care why? becuase no one really see TV anymore but i hope they spam the shit out of it on Youtube that would get more western players.

Also i did not read half your post because i'm not going to read a wall of text you could have really said all that in a very short comment keep it simple please. Sure when people cool off we hit other dry spell who cares ffxiv no where near release so information not going to come out that fast when we closer to release i bet they do much better at release.

yoshi-p know what he doing so don't worry and remember NA is not the main selling point for FFXIV sure yoshi-p keep saying he want to get more players but sadly wow players jump to ffxiv 2.0 and leave in a few month so people who never played a final fantasy mmo is the sell point or someone who never play a mmo to start with.

[Cichy]

SE is changing one step at a time we wont even be talking right now if this was 2years ago SE lol so clam down and enjoy what they give us and wait for more information if that all you want.

Remember SE selling point would always be JP so get over it they never going to waste a big amount of money like they do in JP. JP had awesome tv ad for FFXIV lol maybe we get one here and people wont care why? becuase no one really see TV anymore but i hope they spam the shit out of it on Youtube that would get more western players.

Also i did not read half your post because i'm not going to read a wall of text you could have really said all that in a very short comment keep it simple please. Sure when people cool off we hit other dry spell who cares ffxiv no where near release so information not going to come out that fast when we closer to release i bet they do much better at release.

yoshi-p know what he doing so don't worry and remember NA is not the main selling point for FFXIV sure yoshi-p keep saying he want to get more players but sadly wow players jump to ffxiv 2.0 and leave in a few month so people who never played a final fantasy mmo is the sell point or someone who never play a mmo to start with.

You're completely delusional. XIV sold more copies outside of Japan for your information and not only XIV is in trouble. Entire Final Fantasy brand is in trouble. Wada publicly apologized if you don't remember. You're basically saying they should keep doing same thing and ignore western market. A completely idiotic idea all together. If SE plans on making money they need a strong foot in western market. If XIV doesn't make enough money they will abandon any plans of making expansions or supporting it. There is not going to be 3.0.

You tell me to keep it short and simple and you go on white knighting for two more paragraphs. Come on buddy, who made you a GM here?

[Rizon]

SE is changing one step at a time we wont even be talking right now if this was 2years ago SE lol so clam down and enjoy what they give us and wait for more information if that all you want.

Remember SE selling point would always be JP so get over it they never going to waste a big amount of money like they do in JP. JP had awesome tv ad for FFXIV lol maybe we get one here and people wont care why? becuase no one really see TV anymore but i hope they spam the shit out of it on Youtube that would get more western players.

Also i did not read half your post because i'm not going to read a wall of text you could have really said all that in a very short comment keep it simple please. Sure when people cool off we hit other dry spell who cares ffxiv no where near release so information not going to come out that fast when we closer to release i bet they do much better at release.

yoshi-p know what he doing so don't worry and remember NA is not the main selling point for FFXIV sure yoshi-p keep saying he want to get more players but sadly wow players jump to ffxiv 2.0 and leave in a few month so people who never played a final fantasy mmo is the sell point or someone who never play a mmo to start with.

This argument would be valid if the game was only striving to be a regional game, it is not. SE is attempting to develop a global product so therefore there approach should be global. What they can get away with in Japan after the launch failure will not work in EU and NA. Most people here need to be assured that their patience will be rewarded. Information goes a long way to fulfilling that reward.

[Ingolf]

Jesus Christ.

[Hyrist]

Jesus Christ. (Superstar)

Its ok, I get your point. But the future isn't all glory and sunshine either. Good games come out without any feedback at all. Yet it seems like we have to hold the hand of AAA titles in order for them to even be "meh" level good these days.

It's a backwards system and we know it is.

But there are times where I really think we should stand back and let the artists create, just to see for once what they would do if we weren't screaming at them every second to cater to us and no-one else. If anything, that's what I miss the most about the old days. There was far less pandering and more earnest expression without fear of rebuttal.

(You know what reminded me of the good ole days? Lost Odyssey)

In many ways, we cannot go back. But moving forward, it would be nice if we collectively reorganized our priorities.

[Totorixiii]

We'll survive without a 2 week update on current Alpha progress.

In no way will Yoshi go a whole month or two without updates. He knows we are very eager to see what's next.

I'm just waiting patiently.

[Totorixiii]

Let's face it, since the Internet has taken over our lives in terms of community interaction, we have access to hear people's opinion and also have more power to change an event such with enough people's petitions.

It's a good thing at the same time it's also maybe a bad thing.

I however, grew up from the 80s and up. I'm discipline in manners and patients while also grew up using my imagination all things comes to video games, stories et etc.


The newer generation that grew up with Internet, are more inclined on wanting what they need without giving in some patience. It's part of society within the gaming community in this age we have to deal with. (Not all young generation feels inclined on demanding what they want).

Internet opens the gateway to people's mind of expression which is a make or break.


I would not have much to say or even overly demand too much because if I put myself in the shoes of the Dev Team and or Yoshi, it's not always easy as it is easy to say in words.

[Hyrist]

Let's face it, since the Internet has taken over our lives in terms of community interaction, we have access to hear people's opinion and also have more power to change an event such with enough people's petitions.

It's a good thing at the same time it's also maybe a bad thing.

I however, grew up from the 80s and up. I'm discipline in manners and patients while also grew up using my imagination all things comes to video games, stories et etc.


The newer generation that grew up with Internet, are more inclined on wanting what they need without giving in some patience. It's part of society within the gaming community in this age we have to deal with.

Internet opens the gateway to people's mind of expression which is a make or break.

And to summerize that entirely well written and insightful post with a movie quote:

"The Mob is Rome."