Time Mage Awareness

[Endigiont]

Just a small example is "Stop" "Immobilize" "Disable". Preventing a boss from performing any action for any duration of time has a high chance of being OP in any battle system...

As I've and others have stated Bosses can be immune to stuns and in most Final Fantasy games are immune to most if not all status ailments.

EDIT:

You padded out 3 spells that do almost exactly the same thing.

Crowd Control
Bind - Crowd control prevent movement
Gravity - Crowd control slows movement
Stop - Crowd control stuns target

Enfeeble
Slow - Enfeeble, increases delay for attacks / abilities
Old - Enfeeble decreases stats over time

Support
Haste - Buff decreases delay for attacks / abilities
Reflect - Bounces a spell back at it's caster

Utility
Teleport - Utility brings other players to Time Mage's location
Vanish - Sneak / Invis

Damage
Comet - Nuke

[Alerith]

As I've and others have stated Bosses can be immune to stuns and in most Final Fantasy games are immune to most if not all status ailments.

Indeed.

It's like saying "They shouldn't implement a Death spell because killing bosses with one spell will be too OP." Resistances and Immunities can be adjusted for bosses.

Even on basic spells. Say Slow is a 10% slow and Slow II is a 15% slow. Adjust Ifrit's resistances so it's 5% slow for Slow I and 8-10% for Slow II.

[Altena]

As I've and others have stated Bosses can be immune to stuns and in most Final Fantasy games are immune to most if not all status ailments. So make a class with spells that are only useful against trash mobs that no one cares about?

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Crowd Control
Bind - Crowd control prevent movement
Gravity - Crowd control slows movement
Stop - Crowd control stuns target
Single target spells are hardly "crowd control". Make them -ga's and I will change my opinion.

Enfeeble
Slow - Enfeeble, increases delay for attacks / abilities 1 spell, that can be given to Arcanist already. and probably will be (speculation/assumption, but that's all we have atm).
Old - Enfeeble decreases stats over time Impact had a similar effect in XI and wasn't very useful. Not saying it wouldn't be in XIV, just pointing out another MMO that tried it and didn't really get the utility out of it

Support
Haste - Buff decreases delay for attacks / abilities
Reflect - Bounces a spell back at it's caster
2 other spells that could be given to WHM to eliminate the need for an entire new class

Utility
Teleport - Utility brings other players to Time Mage's location Anima baby !
Vanish - Sneak / Invis Sneak is eliminated by walk mode. Invisible is eliminated by common sense.

Damage
Comet - Nuke BLM.

Just my opinion...

[Endigiont]

Impact had a similar effect in XI and wasn't very useful. Not saying it wouldn't be in XIV, just pointing out another MMO that tried it and didn't really get the utility out of it

You don't know what utility means and yet you keep spouting it out, Old utility? What?

Single target spells are hardly "crowd control". Make them -ga's and I will change my opinion.

As for not saying "GA" at the end of every spell seriously then you'd just complain I was reiterating EVERYTHING OVER AGAIN~!

Anima baby !

As for Teleport I'm thinking more along the lines of how Warlocks in WoW in the middle of a dungeon can pull other players in the party to their exact location and continue with the dungeon.

As for divvying up magic to blackmage or whitemage you could do that with everything basically.

So make a class with spells that are only useful against trash mobs that no one cares about?

You'd be more than happy to see a Time Mage at a boss because of all the support it'll give to the whitemage and the tank.

[Altena]

You don't know what utility means and yet you keep spouting it out, Old utility? What? As for not saying "GA" at the end of every spell seriously then you'd just complain I was reiterating EVERYTHING OVER AGAIN~! As for Teleport I'm thinking more along the lines of how Warlocks in WoW in the middle of a dungeon can pull other players in the party to their exact location and continue with the dungeon.

As for divvying up magic to blackmage or whitemage you could do that with everything basically.

for you:

u·til·i·ty   [yoo-til-i-tee] A noun, plural u·til·i·ties, adjective
noun
1. the state or quality of being useful; usefulness: This chemical has no utility as an agricultural fertilizer.

So yes, I do know what utility means. i.e.. Impact / Old does not seem very useful.

When you explain teleport in that sense, it seems to have more UTILITY. (woops I used that word again).

And yes, you pretty much could do that with everything, but "time/space" has a fairly narrow skill set, and can be easily reallocated with only a couple of spells shuffled to BLM/WHM.

[Endigiont]

No see you don't know what utility means in mmorpgs.

Utility is a classification of spells or abilities primarily used not for combat but for interacting with the world.

For instance, slow fall, movement speed, conjuring food and beverage, sneak or invisible, teleports, warps.

Those in the mmorpg setting is generally what is referred to as utility.

[Altena]

No see you don't know what utility means in mmorpgs.

Utility is a classification of spells or abilities primarily used not for combat but for interacting with the world.

For instance, slow fall, movement speed, conjuring food and beverage, sneak or invisible, teleports, warps.

Those in the mmorpg setting is generally what is referred to as utility.

Sorry not all of us live in a magical land of ponies where we dance around and paint rainbows. We use english definitions of words..

I do understand what you are saying though, but attempting to demeanour my point based on "failure to know definitions of words" doesn't really work when my use of the word is actually correct in the english dictionary.

I do understand what you are saying though.. Just replace my use of "utility" with "usefulness" and you will understand my point.


Trolling aside, (as yeah I have probably been guilty of it in here) It is not that I don't want this particular job to ever get released, nor do I care overly if they do it, as I have faith in the dev team and their ability to think outside the box/implement stuff and make it work~ however I would prefer to see the focus on new classes be on jobs with a more iconic final fantasy feel. Sorry to say but when I think of Final Fantasy I think of a guy with a cool sword/katana/two-handed weapon (WAR, PLD, THF), a girl in a white and red cape (WHM/RDM), a knight with cool armour and a big weapon (DRK, DRG, SAM), big celestial avatars (SMN), and chocobo's. The *only* place I really fit "time mages" into that is a sorcerer/ess type of character. Black/dark cloak (like Ultimicia/Edel).

If we were to look at FF lore, I would prefer AF based on that sorceress kind of look.

[Malakhim]

There are people who think of FF as anything past FFVII, and there are people who think those are crap. There are people who worship the ground Hironobu Sakaguchi walks on and there are those that are glad SE got rid of him. There are those that think Tactics doesn't count as an entry in the series, and there are sane, rational people.

Arguing about what makes Final Fantasy "Final Fantasy" is a tired and pointless argument precisely because of the previous, so trying to dictate what is "traditional", and therefore what should make it in the game for that specific reason is a farce. A more grievous offense is speaking for an entire group of people as some kind of authority. The very fact that there are people who would love to see that job(and Geomancer, Beastmaster, Sorcerer, and even Mime) should be enough evidence that there's a demand for it, and that you can't or won't see that is your own special brand of myopia.

[Firon]

for you:

u·til·i·ty   [yoo-til-i-tee] A noun, plural u·til·i·ties, adjective
noun
1. the state or quality of being useful; usefulness: This chemical has no utility as an agricultural fertilizer.

So yes, I do know what utility means. i.e.. Impact / Old does not seem very useful.

When you explain teleport in that sense, it seems to have more UTILITY. (woops I used that word again).

And yes, you pretty much could do that with everything, but "time/space" has a fairly narrow skill set, and can be easily reallocated with only a couple of spells shuffled to BLM/WHM.

BLM/WHM had most of these spell in FF 1 if anything lol.