Quote Originally Posted by Zaene View Post
I agree again, a lack of ground rules does cause problems such as the OP mentioned. I wasn't actually speaking to what the OP was saying however, I was mostly responding to your post.

One again let me reiterate, yes if you form a levegroup and something drops and you haven't explicitly stated that you wanted it, you would not be justified in saying it is yours if it does not fall to you.

However, I think as I mentioned earlier that the issue with players is a sense of self-centeredness in that even if you cannot use it or cannot readily sell it, you'd be more likely to resist giving it up.

Yes, you cannot blame players for a lack of ground rules however, I'd like to think that some players have a heart and will help you if asked.
players do help, thats not the issue at hand
players help each other all the time
but once someone wants something beyond that help, thats when players get selfish, as is proven here by the OP