[Speculation Discussion] Our Primal

[KaMuiSouZou]

Ascilia's father (Warburton) had important information about the Garleans and Ala Mhigo. Corguevais tells Ascilia that Niellefresne had planned the Goobbue escape in order to gain ground with the people, but Warburton was an accidental death. You learn all this from Thancred and his poker bet in the Platinum Mirage. They were going to attempt to use Necromancy to bring back Warburton so they could hear what he had to tell, but then Niellefresne was stabbed from behind. You witness it happen by using The Echo through Ascilia that shows Mumuep and Niellefresne opening her father's tomb so we can only suspect that she stabbed him.

Ah, I didn't know Warburton's info was specifically about the Garlean Empire/Ala Mhigo. Out of curiousity when was it explained, because I don't see that info in Golden Sacrifices?

As far as I know, we have no idea who actually stabbed Niellefresne? When you say "we can only suspect that she stabbed him" I'm assuming you mean the owner of the Goldsmith's guild? (is the owner female?). I don't know the full extent of the Goldsmith class story (only did the first quest) but I doubt the actual owner was the one who did the stabbing (the character model seems to be male as well). But again I'm wondering how much it ties into the main story, as opposed to just being part of the goldsmith class quest line.

[NoloeTazier]

Ah, I didn't know Warburton's info was specifically about the Garlean Empire/Ala Mhigo. Out of curiousity when was it explained, because I don't see that info in Golden Sacrifices?

As far as I know, we have no idea who actually stabbed Niellefresne? When you say "we can only suspect that she stabbed him" I'm assuming you mean the owner of the Goldsmith's guild? (is the owner female?). I don't know the full extent of the Goldsmith class story (only did the first quest) but I doubt the actual owner was the one who did the stabbing (the character model seems to be male as well). But again I'm wondering how much it ties into the main story, as opposed to just being part of the goldsmith class quest line.

I mean Ascilia stabbed him, you go with F'lhaminn(think thats her name) and you discover Ascilia laying on the floor of the tomb and she's shaking scared, that's when you use The Echo. This is all main storyline. Goldsmith quest I don't remember it going into anything too deep (seems like the quests take place WELL after the main storyline) just that Colbernoux seemed to love F'lhaminn like his brother did. After the what? 4 main storyline quests? I don't remember anymore about Corguevais and Ascilia after. Things kicked off the Path of the Twelve quests, maybe there was nothing more to the story that we wouldn't find out from Minfilia.

[KaMuiSouZou]

I mean Ascilia stabbed him, you go with F'lhaminn(think thats her name) and you discover Ascilia laying on the floor of the tomb and she's shaking scared, that's when you use The Echo. This is all main storyline. Goldsmith quest I don't remember it going into anything too deep (seems like the quests take place WELL after the main storyline) just that Colbernoux seemed to love F'lhaminn like his brother did. After the what? 4 main storyline quests? I don't remember anymore about Corguevais and Ascilia after. Things kicked off the Path of the Twelve quests, maybe there was nothing more to the story that we wouldn't find out from Minfilia.

Ascilia definitely did not stab him though... You can clearly see it was a robed adult, seemingly male. You then see this character walk past Ascilia who is hiding in the same spot as when you approach her to use the Echo. After the echo ends Ascilia is sitting next to a dying Niellesfresne begging him "please don't die."
video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=MCQyze3HcsE
Echo starts at 3:15, robed man/stabbing is at 4:36
If you're suggesting she hired the man to stab Nielle, I suppose that's possible... but she definitely did not do the physical stabbing.

[Warlock]

Ascilia definitely did not stab him though... You can clearly see it was a robed adult, seemingly male. You then see this character walk past Ascilia who is hiding in the same spot as when you approach her to use the Echo. After the echo ends Ascilia is sitting next to a dying Niellesfresne begging him "please don't die."
video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=MCQyze3HcsE
Echo starts at 3:15, robed man/stabbing is at 4:36
If you're suggesting she hired the man to stab Nielle, I suppose that's possible... but she definitely did not do the physical stabbing.

I didn't know that storyline since i did Gridania seems interesting , but what has that to do with Primals?

[KaMuiSouZou]

I didn't know that storyline since i did Gridania seems interesting , but what has that to do with Primals?

It's a tangent from an earlier post I made talking about how the Echo might be connected to Ascians in addition to Primals.