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This is very possible. In Beckon of the Elementals, a Pudgy Moogle tells us that they have a message from the elementals: "Those beckoned by the forest are here as messengers of Nophica herself - to bring the words of the Matron to all." For whatever reason, I feel more inclined to believe it's Nophica or one of the Twelve rather than Siren/a primal. However, Nophica is the guardian deity of Gridania so this quote could just be part of Gridania's storyline and not refer to the voice in the beginning which is in all three cities. Maybe the voice is indeed Nophica, and all twelve play a part in the echo, summoning and guiding us to stop the Ascians and/or Primals..?? Althyk's powers as god of space and time certainly fit the Echo. If so, perhaps that's why Louisoix could teleport only us (those touched with the Echo) and not everyone else?


Interesting! I've only done the first class quest to all the DoH and DoL, so I did not know about Heartseeker. If the owner of the Goldsmith guild owns that dagger, then it could mean powerful people behind Ul'dah are already connected to the Ascians (or whoever the bad guys end up being)? Being stabbed at that particular moment when he looks at Ascilia's father's corpse tells me it's far more than just a Goldsmith sidestory.
Ascilia's father (Warburton) had important information about the Garleans and Ala Mhigo. Corguevais tells Ascilia that Niellefresne had planned the Goobbue escape in order to gain ground with the people, but Warburton was an accidental death. You learn all this from Thancred and his poker bet in the Platinum Mirage. They were going to attempt to use Necromancy to bring back Warburton so they could hear what he had to tell, but then Niellefresne was stabbed from behind. You witness it happen by using The Echo through Ascilia that shows Mumuep and Niellefresne opening her father's tomb so we can only suspect that she stabbed him.