[Speculation Discussion] Our Primal

[Orophin]

Ramuh = ??? (I think someone's made some speculations into the other beastman, but I can't recall off the top of my head. I think Sylph was a potential, but I thought they were friendly, like Ququroon and Goblins)

Just because they're not hostile towards us doesn't mean they don't have a Primal. They actually explicitly mentioned in one of the main story quests that they don't want to summon their Primal because of the evil influence they have over those who summon them.

[Fantasia]

Just because they're not hostile towards us doesn't mean they don't have a Primal. They actually explicitly mentioned in one of the main story quests that they don't want to summon their Primal because of the evil influence they have over those who summon them.

Oh totally, I understand that they might have their own Primals. Maybe it was the Primals' presence in the tribes which turnt them into the aggressive Beastmen we know? If the Goblins decided to summon theirs in 2.0 then I see that they might become more violent...

Thanks for pointing that out =)

Also stands to mean that we could have Primals ourselves, but if we ever summoned them then they'd taint our hearts, too, meaning we'd become more aggressive and start killing/plotting. MAYBE that's what's happened in The Empire? They've summoned a Primal or something which has encouraged them to claim other lands (with advanced tech that the Primal may have bestowed them?)

I'm kinda going off on a tangent now.

[Orophin]

If the Goblins decided to summon theirs in 2.0 then I see that they might become more violent...

The goblins are probably going to hate us for slaughtering them unprovoked outside of the gates of Ul'Dah at the behest of Kipih Jakkya, but that's another story. :P

Also stands to mean that we could have Primals ourselves, but if we ever summoned them then they'd taint our hearts, too, meaning we'd become more aggressive and start killing/plotting. MAYBE that's what's happened in The Empire? They've summoned a Primal or something which has encouraged them to claim other lands (with advanced tech that the Primal may have bestowed them?)

I wouldn't say that's a far-fetched idea. Even with their hatred towards Primals, it's pretty clear the Primals require their undivided devotion, as per Ifrit's little speech in "Lord Errant". Hell, even van Darnus's little crusade was based on his now known Allag-knowledge, and I think some influence from Bahamut. He was more or less worshipping Bahamut in the end even though he never referred to him by name.

[Fantasia]

The goblins are probably going to hate us for slaughtering them unprovoked outside of the gates of Ul'Dah at the behest of Kipih Jakkya, but that's another story. :P

Ssssh, they startled us! =b

I wouldn't say that's a far-fetched idea. Even with their hatred towards Primals, it's pretty clear the Primals require their undivided devotion, as per Ifrit's little speech in "Lord Errant". Hell, even van Darnus's little crusade was based on his now known Allag-knowledge, and I think some influence from Bahamut. He was more or less worshipping Bahamut in the end even though he never referred to him by name.

Hmm, you make a good point about Darnus. He knew it was Bahamut all along but still decided to keep us in the dark, even as he proceeded to draw Bahamut closer. We know the Empire has some kind of 'protection' against Primals... could it be a Primal itself? Alexander, perhaps? In which case, they could flatten the whole of Eorzea and still be safe themselves. Or maybe they have a method of controlling the Primals, in which Bahamut would be the perfect weapon for their arsenal. Scary stuff D=

I want ARR so bad >.<