[Speculation Discussion] Our Primal

[Alaltus]

http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-19/ff14-siren.html
This is Siren

Edit: If Darnus family bloodline comes directly from ancient Allag how are they physically? they have been given the body size of a highlander hyur which are known to be ala'mhigo ppl too and their armors/masks are a sign of their family, there are no highlander hyurs in the imperial regular troops could that be a clue?

Gauis does... but isnt Darnus Elezen? i remember alot of talk about him having the same emotes as Elzen and such.

[Anonymoose]

but isnt Darnus Elezen?

His art packets are categorized with the elezen, so I would say so.

[Orophin]

You can see him do the Elezen /bow during "To Kill a Raven".

[Warlock]

You can see him do the Elezen /bow during "To Kill a Raven".

But Gaius and Nael have same height? or i just didn't notice... and Elezen isn't that muscly like highlander hyur

EDIT: Not to mention Van Darnus has the same "I hug myself emote" Hildebrand uses

[Wynn]

The Twelve ARE primals.

[Anonymoose]

The Twelve ARE primals.

I was going to hold off adding that as number six until someone said it, lol.

[Zantetsuken]

There's a big opportunity to introduce the 12 (well, 13 technically) 'Zodiac Espers' as fallen counterparts to the Twelve Gods of Eorzea.

Back when 1.0 started, I wondered if they would eventually go down that route - it would fit quite well in this game.

[Fantasia]

There's a big opportunity to introduce the 12 (well, 13 technically) 'Zodiac Espers' as fallen counterparts to the Twelve Gods of Eorzea.

Back when 1.0 started, I wondered if they would eventually go down that route - it would fit quite well in this game.

Hmm, this is an interesting thought...

Belias (Gigas) > Byregot, the Builder
Chaos (Wheel Walker) > Nymeia, the Spinner
Zalera (Death) > Rhalgr, the Destroyer
Zeromus (Condemner) > Oschon, the Wanderer
Hashmal (Order) > Llymlaen, the Navigator
Ultima (High Seraph) > Althyk, the Keeper
Exodus (Judge) > Azeyma, the Warden
Cuchulainn (Impure) > Thaliak, the Scholar
Shemhazai (Whisperer) > Menphina, the Lover
Adrammelch (Wrath) > Halone, the Fury
Famfrit (Darkening Cloud) > Nophica, the Matron
Mateus (Corrupt) > Nald'thal, the Traders

Zodiark (Keeper of Precepts)

Probably means nothing at all, it's just nice to think about =)

Edit:
I know some don't really fit (i.e., Scholar and Matron), but I just kinda threw it together. Someone can fiddle =b

[Anonymoose]

Hmm, this is an interesting thought...

Actually, you might be onto something - even just as an an interesting connection between games. Hold on, let me tweak this a bit...

EDIT COMING SOON:

LINE 1 - The Twelve (Astral & Umbral)
LINE 2 - Espers (Light and Darkness)

THUNDER
Byregot, the Builder & Rhalgr, the Destroyer
Deudalaphon, the Benevolent & Adrammelech, the Wroth

WIND
Llymlaen, the Navigator & Oschon, the Wanderer
Mitron, the Chastiser & Chaos, Walker of the Wheel

FIRE
Nald'thal, the Traders & Azeyma, the Warden
Loghrif, the Transcendent & Belias, the Gigas

EARTH
Althyk, the Keeper & Nophica, the Matron
Hashmal, Bringer of Order & Fandaniel, the Protector

ICE
Halone, the Fury & Menphina, the Lover
Mateus, the Corrupt & Lahabrea, Abyssal Celebrant

WATER
Nymeia, the Spinner & Thaliak, the Scholar
Emmerololth, Holy Queen & Famfrit, the Darkening Cloud



Hmmm... [shuffles names around]

[Fantasia]

Actually, you might be onto something - even just as an an interesting connection between games. Hold on, let me tweak this a bit...

It's probably also worth mentioning that these Espers were actually first present in the Tactics game, where Yoshi is getting -some- inspiration from. They were used in XII keeping the same names and appearance (which was pretty cool)