Job Individuality/Pride/Dedication

[Obsy]

This may have already been said (I skipped to the end after 2 pages) but with XIV having been out for a couple years now, it's pretty likely that most of the players who've been around longer than a few months will have most jobs maxed out. It's really only a matter of time before "Ooo, you're 50!" becomes "ah, you're 50... in everything".

Pairing that inevitability with the human tendency to go for the path of least resistance, one would naturally expect prescribed party setups for particular in-game scenarios.

It seems to me that to avoid this—allowing players to stick with their preferred job choice and feel unique—is to balance everything out to the point of removing each job's uniqueness beyond aesthetics, ultimately defeating the purpose.

[-Eri-]

I can relate to this... ^^
I actually didnt Level anything that i didnt like.
Never ever forced on WHM in any Game like XI used to force me on WHM until i get rid of all Gear for it >_>
I'm like: If you want me. You should be ok with my Class (or Job... sometime :P),
I want to be the best i can be. On the Job i wish to play. So someone either accepts it or i don't join them~
End of Story
If anyone wants to tell me they are equally good on every Class/Job....
Chances are high that they suck on all of them XD
If some Events are not doable on certain Jobs~ Its most likely a community thing...

Proud to be Brd/Arc!
Just leveling some Jobs to a certain level for a skill...
I won't lie Mnk is kinda fun to me so i lvled that too lol

However! I love to be able to swich on my Crafters ....
to repiar ppl and such....

[Kiote]

Yeah, I'm sorry man, but this game is built for people who want to do everything.

The problem you have has nothing to do with the Armoury System. Every job is effective in every Content.

Your problem is that you play with arrogant people who think they know better than everyone else.

[GinTama]

i agree with this. you should be able to set your whm apart from other whm if you put effort into it. and it should not be possible to simply switch midway in a dungeon

[Reika]

In the case of FFXIV, i simply never joined a party as BLM, BRD, MNK or WAR. If that meant not doing content, thats just how it was. I have boss macros set up for PLD, WHM, and DRG. There really isnt enough room to set up good macros for all your Jobs, and good macro work makes you better at a Job in 1.0. It sped up skill usage and allwed easy chaining of abilities and/or weaponskills. Thats why some say someone that plays everything without a care really isnt the best they can be at any of them.

[Morticous]

I admit I did not read the entire post, but let me see if I got the idea. Either you would rather it be more like FFXI style where you have to go to your mog hours to change jobs.. or more like WOW where you build ten million characters to play each job.

Let me say, id rather it be FFXI style honestly. BUT, to the complaint that your forced to change to meet team needs.. If it was WOW style where your character only is one job, it would be as simple as nobody every asking you to join their party . I also would rather play the job i like, but its either change, build your own party, or not get asked to a party at all.

But again, FFXI style, going back to your MOG house to change jobs is far better then changing on the fly in my opinion, but WOW style is STUPID.

[VanillaLatte]

Totally agree.

They should make it like XI where you can only change classes/jobs in the inn. There was a reason for it and it was exactly for this.

[Reika]

Totally agree.

They should make it like XI where you can only change classes/jobs in the inn. There was a reason for it and it was exactly for this.

They dont really need to do that, they just need to make it so you cant change inside the dungeon or instance. They already do it with Hamlet Defense.

[Orophin]

I have every job leveled, but I'm far from geared well enough or competent enough to play every one of them. I'm kind of in a unique situation in that my LS has a shortage of tanks, which is my role of choice, so I usually get to go as one. This isn't the case for everyone though.

I feel the class stacking thing is a community issue. People look at whatever strat BG employs (my LS is guilty of this too) and adopt it. This isn't BG's fault or anything; they're employing the strategy that works best for them. It just seems many LS's take their strategy as law and that's what you have to do. To my dismay, this usually excludes people from being able to participate because they are in the same position as me in that they only have specific roles with the proper gear and knowledge to be played.

I realize the armory system was created to give flexibility, but I think something needs to be implemented, such as a class lock while in instanced content, so that people aren't expected to swap between several roles during an instance, and hopefully this would also encourage less class stacking so that people can come on whatever class they want to play.

[Duelle]

I feel the class stacking thing is a community issue. People look at whatever strat BG employs (my LS is guilty of this too) and adopt it. This isn't BG's fault or anything; they're employing the strategy that works best for them. It just seems many LS's take their strategy as law and that's what you have to do. To my dismay, this usually excludes people from being able to participate because they are in the same position as me in that they only have specific roles with the proper gear and knowledge to be played.

Here's the thing: player trends, much like doody, roll down hill. WoW had the exact same problem until they started changing raid and class design to allow all classes and specs an equal chance. Before that, if Nihilum or Paragon were doing it, the lv10's running deadmines most likely were too. And if they said your spec was non-optimal, you were screwed.