Why do we have classes AND jobs again?

[Valmonte]

That's actually a really good point and I haven't seen anyone else bring it up.

it was a long time ago...by Rokien if you believe it or not. like every thing else that may cause you to spend any time leveling it was brushed aside as being stupid dumb and retarded.

[Colvin]

I wouldn't mind having a separate experience system for abilities. This way you can still apply experience to abilities but you aren't forced to level away from your peers. That was the main downside to XI and why they implemented the system they way they did in XIV. They got a lot of complaints about people basically not having access to the job they wanted from the beginning and potentially negating all progress because they had to start over back from level 1.

I would feel more empowered if I had experience go towards abilities rather than a blanket leveling system personally.

you mean like the ability system from FF9?

[whoopeeragon]

Also adding new jobs that I won't have to level if I have the base class at 50 is just weird to me.

I wouldn't expect my character to be a master RNG just because he has BRD at 50. They're also missing out on valuable content, that most people enjoy.

I suppose that's why they have the job quests there. I'll consider them content, even if they are small ones, but they could expand on each individual quest in ARR so it actually feels like an achievement to unlock an ability.

[Colvin]

The thing I like about leveling is, it prevents you from participating in end game right away, you have this "level up process" which promotes learning of the job/class (You gain the one ability and then that you can play with for a while before obtaining the next) and you have the excitement of obtaining new abilities soon and gear (Which yes the quest thing does this... but that's easy if you're already 50 and you just steam roll w/e quest it is and smack them all down right in a row in the portion of a few hours.) If the content was laid out as I said above it could be a lot more interesting and fun, and maintain a sense of something to work at and look forward to as you see other high levels of your chosen class/job around you.

I think perhaps our opinions are closer than we think and we are getting mixed up in the semantics of where numbers are being applied.

[whoopeeragon]

you mean like the ability system from FF9?

I actually thought more of FFX-2 and the ability-learning system for the dresspheres.

[Colvin]

I actually thought more of FFX-2 and the ability-learning system for the dresspheres.

You know, on that note... I had hoped they would make an MMO using the sphere grid as a basis. I would really enjoy that. Actually, I would play an MMO that takes in Spira, in general.

[Wyyote]

all discussion on the forums right now is pretty useless at that but there isnt much else to do, so pointing it out doesnt help the boredom go away.

[indira]

i found the answer to this post !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5yA-...&feature=g-u-u

[Imoen]

I think perhaps our opinions are closer than we think and we are getting mixed up in the semantics of where numbers are being applied.

They are the same, the only difference being that Quests don't create a barrier for end game content short of your party getting pissed off that you don't have steel cyclone (**arbitrary example--which they may not even know if you don't tell them) Being level 35 trying to join a 50 8 man does.

[Colvin]

hahaha. that has pretty much been the day, yes. It's ok though. I like all the talk. It gives me something to do inbetween coding.