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  1. #91
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    At least with it based of LNC the scythe seems a little more likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by indira View Post
    issuse will be dark & pld will be the same thing minus 5 skills.
    ^^ This... except there is a possibility that DRK would have different cross class options.

    For me personally I would like to level more too not just a few quests bam I'm DRK, If we start adding 2-3 jobs per class, we just run into this. **2 years later "Oh look a new job DRK! I'm so excited!" **Runs out does a few quests for AF and abilities quite possibly in a few hours* "K what now?" **Talks in linkshell "Anything going on I'm bored?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by whoopeeragon View Post
    What she's getting at is that PLD and DRK would be too similar, given that in the usual lore statements they are complete opposites. Because they are based on GLA which has innate survival skills and tanking skills, DRK won't fit well with the current GLA. Which is why I feel that DRK would be better to be branched from LNC.
    However that's considering things from the point of view of 1.0. As I've been saying, we don't know what they're doing with 2.0. We've already seen examples of jobs not getting access to everything the class does with Summoner. All we're doing right now is evaluating things from an outdated point of view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whoopeeragon View Post
    What she's getting at is that PLD and DRK would be too similar, given that in the usual lore statements they are complete opposites. Because they are based on GLA which has innate survival skills and tanking skills, DRK won't fit well with the current GLA. Which is why I feel that DRK would be better to be branched from LNC.
    Ya i can understand that but was just a example on what yoshi-p said. Right now jobs only have 5 skills but at 60+ they could have 10-15 skills which could make the jobs 100 diff. Also they could allow jobs to have a different wep like dark knight can use Scythe which open more stuff to them and make them more diff then just a GLA. But i understand what you mean was only a example i give that yoshi-p said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    However that's considering things from the point of view of 1.0. As I've been saying, we don't know what they're doing with 2.0. We've already seen examples of jobs not getting access to everything the class does with Summoner. All we're doing right now is evaluating things from an outdated point of view.

    Which is pretty much all we can do since non of us can log in for a better portion of a half a year. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyyote View Post
    Skills could be very difficult to obtain or a time sink similar to relic. In which case those skills would mean a fairily significant difference in how the job was played. There are a ton of potential options still available for how to handle additional jobs.
    5 Job Skills regardless of how hard they are to obtain doesn't make Dark Knight that much different from Paladin. Gladiator has Tanking, Sword, and Shield base abilities. What is a Dark Knight going to do with these?

    What she's getting at is that PLD and DRK would be too similar, given that in the usual lore statements they are complete opposites. Because they are based on GLA which has innate survival skills and tanking skills, DRK won't fit well with the current GLA. Which is why I feel that DRK would be better to be branched from LNC.
    Lancer makes a little more sense, but again. Armory system won't allow it because of different weapons. Also to make it "feel" like a Dark Knight, it's 5 Job abilities would have to be all Magic and that may not be enough to differentiate it from Dragoon or be enough Magic to satisfy people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imoen View Post
    **Talks in linkshell "Anything going on I'm bored?"
    I still think this is a content problem. Expecting old level grinding to take the place of content does not work for everyone (or even the majority Id believe). There should be enough new content released with the job that you dont have to feel like you are bored. They could make, for instance, DRK a 15-20 quest process instead of 5. That would keep you busy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    However that's considering things from the point of view of 1.0. As I've been saying, we don't know what they're doing with 2.0. We've already seen examples of jobs not getting access to everything the class does with Summoner. All we're doing right now is evaluating things from an outdated point of view.
    And that could be said at the whole topic. People are evaluating classes and jobs from an outdated point of view, and not seeing that everything in ARR could be changed. And you are very accurate in your statement, but I was just explaining it from how indira saw it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    However that's considering things from the point of view of 1.0. As I've been saying, we don't know what they're doing with 2.0. We've already seen examples of jobs not getting access to everything the class does with Summoner. All we're doing right now is evaluating things from an outdated point of view.
    yup, we dont know crap just speculating on the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imoen View Post
    Which is pretty much all we can do since non of us can log in for a better portion of a half a year. lol
    Which is part of what makes this discussion fairly useless. We know very little about exactly how the class - job relationship works in 2.0.
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