FFXIV-- the fear of a WoW Clone is real...

[Colvin]

almost everything after wow was a clone and failed, if people want wow they play wow, if they leave wow it because they want something else.

I don't think that is true. Rift is still very Wow Like and there are plenty of people playing it. I would say the same for GW2. It really largely depends on what you are taking as the part of the gameplay which is "cloned". They have their differences, but there are people who would say FFXIV is already WoW like. Maybe we should edit the OP to state out specifically what is considered a "WoW clone" concept/feature?

[SirEdeonX]

Very good points sir!

But for example... I played rift for 1 - 2 months and it was WoW just with a newer engin. It was a sad copy. I dont want XIV to be a WoW with a FF "skin" persay

Exactly, but Rift overdid it XD
We know Yoshi for 2 years now. We can already feel the epicness he brought with this storyline. First thing he brought to the game was chocobos and airships - he knows this is a FF. It will always be a true FF. If we can have a fantastic gameplay on top of it, then that's awesome!

We already know the battle against Bahamut will be awesome XD And Odin too. Yoshi-P proved it to us already. We need to have faith!

EDIT: Actually, the only "Wow" thing I see them implementing on ARR is the quest-based levelling. For me, I think that brings structure to the game, and actually allows them to improve story-telling which is FF selling point. And besides, Yoshi-P also confirmed we're gonna have a lot more content to level on. So I don't worry too much.

[Abriael]

on the recent live letter, it was mentioned that the devs have been playing Starwars old republic and guild wars 2.

Do you guys fear that what made FFXI and FXIV unique will cease to exist and that we will sadlyl endup being a WoW clone?

I REALLY HOPE NOT

Whoever uses the term "wow clone" for any game doesn't hold any credibility.

It's that simple.

[Zenaku]

WoW is the MMO standard just like how every FPS game have about the same controller layout. FFXI was never noob friendly if you did not have a friend or was smart to learn quick you would quit. I remember helping lot's of noob because they had no idea where to buy gear and where to fight because the game does not even tell you that..

So ya FFXIV is a wow-clone because that is the standard but does not a tree system for jobs and there a real storyline with cs and it base around PVE more then anything else. Also it's final fantasy they adding everything that made old final fantasy so great.

[Zyph]

Implying GW2 is a WoW cone

[IloveYouPumpkin]

I don't care if it gets more WoW like. I think they should do whatever is going to make them the most money... since, you know... that's what business should do.

As long as they look at star wars the old republic, which sold huge but over time has plummeted subscribers and is now going free to play in the near future. They spent 200 million dollars mostly on the voice acting, and copied WoW in nearly every way. It doesn't work.

[Totorixiii]

People know WOW is played out. Reason why WOW is popular is because of how a big Blizzard fanbase they have in North America that supports them.

Also, any MMO that tries to make it easy and copy WOW, it's doom I know that for sure, because it will catch up to the players everywhere, except WoW and FFXI and FFXIV will provide contents update and expansions which keeps people happy in the long run.

I've always believe that it's a great idea to add ideas from other popular MMO, however, just don't try to copy too much because their won't be much identity. FFXI is special in it's own way and no other MMO is similar to it.

I just wish FFXIV had similiarity in terms of spells and such taken from FFXI to begin with. With the exception of the kick ass animation that is FFXIV.

[Alerith]

And once again, this topic rears it's ugly head... I'm not even sure people know what the definition of a WoW clone even is anymore.


"THEY ARE ADDING STREAMLINED/COMMON/BASIC MMO SYSTEMS TO THE GAME! DOOM I SAY! DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!"

[Elexia]

And once again, this topic rears it's ugly head... I'm not even sure people know what the definition of a WoW clone even is anymore

Take a look at Rift, that's pretty much the definition. I don't think it's even so much the "streamlined" nature more than it's pretty much just doing nothing but that which is what 'WoW clones' does and end up dying because..well what did it do differently?

While XIV will be a FF fan service game, it won't matter much if people get a sense of deja vu everytime they do something in XIV, what we know and seen of XIV so far is that they're just making it fit into the MMO market, whereas with XI they took the base systems of EQ and did their own spin on some things which is what made it stand out.

"THEY ARE ADDING STREAMLINED/COMMON/BASIC MMO SYSTEMS TO THE GAME! DOOM I SAY! DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!"

Like I said..sadly this is actually true. Look at Tera, it was as streamlined as it could get with a unique battle system (for the most part) and it still flopped in Korea and Japan..even with the naked character lol, so just streamlining doesn't really change much if they don't do something amazing in a saturated market, since the question comes down to:

"So these 8 MMOs does the same thing, why should I play this MMO over WoW which will have more content for me to dive into and I'll get the same gameplay experience, possibly better?"

SE is either holding onto it's aces or they really need to step it up.

[Valmonte]

there taking samples from the wrong games...that much is certain.