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[DarkRain]

if you want a really challenging game, MMORPGs aren't exactly the place to look. MMORPGs are. by definition of their gameplay mechanics, all rather easy. The same can be said for FFXI.

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Anyways 11 was chalengeing , Sea access anyone? How about Sky , DM? What about the epic fights with that crazy old man Maat? Rhuban?

What i was saying is i dont want 11 but i want what worked in 11. If someone made a ham sandwitch then added roast beef its not a ham sandwitch but it still has ham. So 14 can be a rost beef and ham sandwitch adding in 11s ham. Maybe thats a better way of saying it.

Right now there is NO challenge in 14. You do a mission check your map find the NPC off your map and finsih quest. You do a MIssion Goto the area and solo it easy i havent yet ben killed from doing a mission or a quest solo. And ive done them all solo. As for group play being faster to level Yes it is. But the sad thing is People are quiting droping like flies because the game is easy and boarning. Like now im on the fourms talking wile my Chr. is in the market wards crafting Silver needles +1 and all im going to do is NPC them because the market is flooded. After 50 there is nothing to do. NOTHING.

Also i wanted to add this. Why is it you can pick a battle leve and see if your getting Gild Marks but if you pick a crafting leve it needs to be level 15+ and its a 30% chance you get guild marks. Dosent make sence that again one of them quarks in the game that can be fixed easy. But wont because PvE is more important

[Abriael]

Anyways 11 was chalengeing , Sea access anyone? How about Sky , DM? What about the epic fights with that crazy old man Maat? Rhuban?

if you want challenge, try a racing simulator. Those encounters (like all MMORPG encounters) were mostly a matter of time and executing a list of actions found online. May have been challenging for the first few that tried them, but after that they become routine.

What i was saying is i dont want 11 but i want what worked in 11. If someone made a ham sandwitch then added roast beef its not a ham sandwitch but it still has ham. So 14 can be a rost beef and ham sandwitch adding in 11s ham. Maybe thats a better way of saying it.

The fact that something worked in another game doesn't mean that different or better solutions cannot be found. Final Fantasy XI is still there. You can still play it.
FFXIV is simply another game.

Right now there is NO challenge in 14. You do a mission check your map find the NPC off your map and finsih quest.

You're saying that finding an NPC (that most find online anyway) is your idea of challenge?

You do a MIssion Goto the area and solo it easy i havent yet ben killed from doing a mission or a quest solo. And ive done them all solo. As for group play being faster to level Yes it is. But the sad thing is People are quiting droping like flies because the game is easy and boarning. Like now im on the fourms talking wile my Chr. is in the market wards crafting Silver needles +1 and all im going to do is NPC them because the market is flooded. After 50 there is nothing to do. NOTHING.

And what does the lack of endgame content have to do with the ability to solo and the lack of challenge? You seem to be rambling quite aimlessly, to be honest.

Also i wanted to add this. Why is it you can pick a battle leve and see if your getting Gild Marks but if you pick a crafting leve it needs to be level 15+ and its a 30% chance you get guild marks. Dosent make sence that again one of them quarks in the game that can be fixed easy. But wont because PvE is more important

Because crafting leves are class specific. Battle leves are not. Easy.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

If i could post a link, so,e guy did a nice talk about demons and how its not that hard.

To paraphrase is a game isn;t hard just cuz you die alot. That demon souls just make death well.. a epic kick in the taco/grapes.

Personally games are as easy or hard as you make it. Games are just suppose to be fun. I find it a lame excuse that an aggro icon takes away fun for ppl. I see nothing wrong with it. Its like checking mobs and seeing them as Increadibly tough. Just minus the checking. Just because the game gives you icon or hints, its not making the game easy mode. Easy mode is having enamies die to fast you level up wicked fast and don't die as much or at all.

I think ppl are letting their hate for WoW ruin their experience for ffxiv. Just play the game and have fun. Stop stressing out over it.