Community name "Gathering Fatigue"

[Peregrine]

This thread makes me cringe every time I open it and it's always the same posters who just don't get it and fail to listen to reason. So we just go round and round trying to educate kids on basic game design who think their opinion is the only one that matters. Oh and I hope they don't remove surplus or craft botting will be ten times worse than it is now. People will take a craft 1-50 within a week. Get rid of the bots first and then we can talk about this again.

It's less education. They never learn because they're not ready for that kind of concept yet. One degree of indirect causality is impossible for a teenager and even most adults who are stuck in concrete operational thought, so long as there is any more direct effect that these people want. They are, in effect, unable to see the big picture. It's well documented in psychology, to the point where you have to actually model your education around COUNTING on them being unable to understand the reasoning. This isn't about education. They'll either grow out of it into formal operational thought processes or they won't. You have to protect them from their irrational thought regardless, because it's dangerous to everyone.

It's about protecting the game from their ideas and ensuring that the proper what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-that-idea-sucks is displayed for everyone to see. JUST so we're on the same page and no one gets the idea that this idea is remotely plausible.

If some Square Enix intern screwed up enough to get some of the September launch into the game, they're inept enough to listen to Reika et al and shoot themselves in the abdomen. Right now Square Enix is acting like a dad who never listened to his daughter, and now after the inevitable divorce is trying to buy love by giving the kid anything she wants.

A lot of these players who don't know what's best for the game have detected that Square's trying too hard to please its individual players and are trying to press their luck to see what they can be handed out.

Demanding that the gathering yield restrictions be removed is SORELY trying to press your luck. No. What a stupid idea.