Community name "Gathering Fatigue"

[Lissandra]

i thought id shamelessy bump my own topic to get people discussing it again as I feel this is my biggest pain in the game at the moment

I've been pondering about this, because this gathering fatigue bothers me as well...

Here's a suggestion. What about the gathering fatigue coming up at a later time the higher you are? Seeing as the higher your crafts are, the more mats you'll need in the long run to rank up each level. For all of the DoL loving crafts, something like this would be of a great help! XD

Example:

*The time limit I'm stating is being able to gather without hitting the gathering fatigue until the specified times, but only if you were to gather continuously in one session.

Ranks 1-20
One hour to an hour and a half hours limit

Ranks 21-30
Hour and a half to two hours limit

Ranks 31-40
Two hours to two and a half hours limit

Ranks 41-50
Three hours limit

Anything higher than 3 is quite a bit much, in my opinion.

[Peregrine]

I've been pondering about this, because this gathering fatigue bothers me as well...

Here's a suggestion. What about the gathering fatigue coming up at a later time the higher you are? Seeing as the higher your crafts are, the more mats you'll need in the long run to rank up each level. For all of the DoL loving crafts, something like this would be of a great help! XD

Example:

*The time limit I'm stating is being able to gather without hitting the gathering fatigue until the specified times, but only if you were to gather continuously in one session.

Ranks 1-20
One hour to an hour and a half hours limit

Ranks 21-30
Hour and a half to two hours limit

Ranks 31-40
Two hours to two and a half hours limit

Ranks 41-50
Three hours limit

Anything higher than 3 is quite a bit much, in my opinion.

Higher miners have higher stats that allow higher yields, so this feature would be redundant. Increasing the time high level miners *can* spend in the field increases the time they *will* spend and starts an arms race of more grinding for ultimately the *same* effect as the market will correct.

I like the idea of limiting the time miners can be out in the field. It keeps prices up and it squashes time squatters from establishing the job's standards.

[Eruantien]

but people battle for more than three hours, in fact for some events in other mmo's they themselves could takes several hours.

[Catapult]

Exploring Eorzea is a thrilling experience.

During you time here, you will be able to talk, join, and
adventure with many other individuals in an experience
that is unique to online games. That being said, we have
no desire to see your real life suffer as a consequence.

Please do not forget your family, your friends, your school, or your work.

Do you wish to continue?

~FFXIV Start Screen Message


What I take from this - play healthy without neglecting your social life and you should never have to worry about the fatigue system in the first place.

[Enma]

Please remove this "Hidden Fatigue" please!

[Kiote]

I really do not care about the items. I will happily not get items if it stops RMT. But it's pretty messed up that I have to have two Fatigue systems on my SP because no one at SE could come up with a half decent idea. Here's what i came up with in 3 seconds.

When a person reaches Gathering cap allow them to keep getting real SP but replace items being damaged with Items being to poor quality to be used. Grant SP for success but make the item totally useless or automatically discarded.

Not the most elegant solution but for the love of god don't double gimp my SP..

[Eruantien]

I really do not care about the items. I will happily not get items if it stops RMT. But it's pretty messed up that I have to have two Fatigue systems on my SP because no one at SE could come up with a half decent idea. Here's what i came up with in 3 seconds.

When a person reaches Gathering cap allow them to keep getting real SP but replace items being damaged with Items being to poor quality to be used. Grant SP for success but make the item totally useless or automatically discarded.

Not the most elegant solution but for the love of god don't double gimp my SP..

this is exactly what I believe, I think you should get something like pebbles or something once you hit this fatigue, you gain items of no worth so doesn't damage economy (if this is indeed the reason why this hidden fatigue is there) but you still get sp/xp

[Enma]

I think that this system is build to avoid a saturation of the market... But what I'd like to see is at least another way for skilling up DoL.

[Vesper]

I really do not care about the items. I will happily not get items if it stops RMT. But it's pretty messed up that I have to have two Fatigue systems on my SP because no one at SE could come up with a half decent idea. Here's what i came up with in 3 seconds.

When a person reaches Gathering cap allow them to keep getting real SP but replace items being damaged with Items being to poor quality to be used. Grant SP for success but make the item totally useless or automatically discarded.

Not the most elegant solution but for the love of god don't double gimp my SP..

No thanks.

Disciples of War, Magic and Hand can still effectively do their jobs once they hit Surplus/Fatigue. Disciples of the Land should be offered the same courtesy, we are a full fledged Job/Class system in ourselves. We are not just a tacked on additional feature like crafting and gathering is in most mmo's.

We deserve the same rights to play our class effectively as every other job in the game.

Disciples of War/Magic are meant to Fight
Disciples of Hand are meant to Craft
Disciples of Land are meant to Gather/Supply

Land are the only jobs stuck dealing with a twofold penalty system. RMT or not the system is unfair when the other Disciples do not have to deal with a similar penalty.

Hand does not auto fail craft after a few hours, War & Magic do not auto die/fail battles after a few hours, Land should not auto fail gathering after a few hours.

[Peregrine]

Yes, the double jeopardy SP nerf should be ended. Surplus is to stop you from progressing in miner ranks too quickly. Field fatigue should only limit production, not progress too. You can be a weekend warrior battler, but if you try to do all your week's mining on saturday and sunday...well...the system will eat you alive.

You should get full SP for mining a fatigued item fail.

Unfortunately field fatigue is tied in with the stats that determine your success--that is, damaging the item because you didn't have the stats or power is the same system as damaging the item because you are fatigued. Therefore, to change it would require redoing what "success" means.