Community name "Gathering Fatigue"

[Tiraelina]

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Keep the field equations like they are. Don't give the gatherer the fatigue-blown item. DO give them full SP for that gather. All they have to do is differentiate between an item you damage because you didn't do it well, and an item you damage because you're in fatigue. Easy-peasy.

That's all SE has to do. That's a hit of an update. That will let players be weekend warriors in gathering just like they are in levelling their battle crafts and hand j...crafters.

They don't have to worry about production balance. It's balanced. We have stupid high production. We have stupid high consumption. Miraculously that's somewhat stable. Somehow. Now is not the time to be poking those wolverines.

Removing the gathering caps is a HORRIBLE idea. Square Enix, you can. Not. Listen to them. You there. Moderator, sir or ma'am! It is EXCRUCIATINGLY important that you cannot convey to the development team that we want removal of gathering caps. We don't want that cap removed.

If the dev team removes that cap, they will spend the next six months dealing with the economic fallout. This is not the time, even if this were the solution. Which it's not. So don't write that down as a suggestion from us.

We suggest no one mentions any of this ever again. Just remove the sp penalty for successfully striking a fatigued item. Throw that item in the trash. And slowly walk away and never speak of this until like...after christmas. Well after christmas.

Face it, the economy is already broken and fixing DoL would be an excuse to fix the rest. Instead you and your friend would rather throw around Ad Hominem's and Straw Mans. This is the ONLY game that directly limits how much you can get from gathering each day.

Nope the current system is fine, its benefiting me. Great joke.

[Kaedan]

Face it, the economy is already broken and fixing DoL would be an excuse to fix the rest. Instead you and your friend would rather throw around Ad Hominem's and Straw Mans. This is the ONLY game that directly limits how much you can get from gathering each day.

You've got that backwards.

Also, to the bolded part of your quote: BULL****. Every MMO has some form of limitation, and FFXI has the same kind of limitation that FFXIV has.

[BadOmen]

Well, i do be crazzy (seriously i thinkin that right now as im writing this). but...

wouldnt the RMT issue be solved if SE just made Gil untradable trhu gamers (only to NPC such like Retainers... well as things are going right now think about some few points...

1.-there is no delivery box service unlike at XI that allow you pass money trhu your multiple characters on a same account... so no point in make money tadeable,except to buy items in wards or trhu bazzars or at much... repairs(wich then is also done trhu bazzaring, not trhu actual trade) so .. unable to tarde money = bye bye to RMT

2.- If you gona put the excuse of giving money to a friend... just think about it.. why you will give him money? so he buy things?, as things are now just better buy these items and trade him the gear instead, actually i think thats what everyone else does,if not craft the item self for a fellow, so far i be seen people trading all sort of items passing by gear trhu synths.... but so far, and im not joking, i havent known yet of ppl giving gil to a friend , and alot of people have said it, money is rather worthless right now at least.

so i dont think there be point on made money tradeable at all. thats my point of view.

Yes i know, it sounds dumb , very, but think about it carefully and watch, at least i be seen on all LS i be been people givin away items crafted by themselves than lending gil.

[Reika]

You are in a very good LS. I give away crafted items and materials all the time. Money is pretty worthless. having lots of it is meaningless.

[BadOmen]

to be honest, i could even go far to say SE somehow in an odd point of view made some kind of utopia without even noticed it that the real issue is the money is still tradeable, im playin in 2 diferent servers cause i have friends i did meet from ffxi in both, and in both servers people seems to have build a culture of pass/give away old outfit to new members rather than sell it back, and believe me i was amazed to find out it was in both servers and no, its not only cause they my friends, everyone seems like that way and i bet its not only on the 2 servers i am playing at.

Edit:

Even me, beign "poor" compared to other people on my LS have passed away old gear to new gamers when i have less than 100K gils, and it seems not hurt much my pockets, i recover gil easy to take care of me self, seems like the lack of money is only the first 1~10 ranks of your first job

[Reika]

Random give away spree? sounds like fun ^^.

[BadOmen]

Yeah im not jokin, and god i dont have a high level job at 50 yet on any of my chars but cause i level all my jobs, many of them are past Lv20~30 and none below 10, and i might not have every gear +3 but almost... (maybe that why i usually have betwen 100~500K). well the point is , if money is relativelly easy to obtain, then why make it tradeable?, and i do say anyone who buy gil from RMT must not have brains or idk... maybe there is people so lazzy that they even lazzy too to go to bathroom, idk really but if there is RMTs there must be such people who buy gil when there no need i guess... cant help these people lackin of brainz.

[Reika]

Thats one of the reasons we dont need anti-RMT countermeasures programmed in the game. Gil is so E-Z to obtain, no one in their right minds would buy from an RMT, and RMT dont thrive as long as we dont need their gil.

[origamikitsune]

Take away the limit on gathering. +3 mats flood the market. If gil is so easy to obtain that its pointless, RMT will just start selling HQ gear directly, using all the +3 mats we and they can now so easily obtain.

I'd rather they stick to gil, and sucker idiots into buying gil, than to utterly and irreversibly destroy the HQ market.

[Peregrine]

Thats one of the reasons we dont need anti-RMT countermeasures programmed in the game. Gil is so E-Z to obtain, no one in their right minds would buy from an RMT, and RMT dont thrive as long as we dont need their gil.

You're constantly two steps behind me, which means you're three steps behind RMT.
Who told you they'd sell gil? They didn't. Using your horrible idea, they'll start selling gathering powerlevelling to crafters who are too lazy to pick up a field tool (like you?). Now they can level you as quickly as they want and they get paid in materials to do it PLUS US dollars for the end product.

So congratulations. Any way you slice it, your idea sucks and it's a disaster waiting to happen.