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    SydeBeheln's Avatar
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    Side Beheln
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    I think gear swaping is something signature to ffxi, ffxiv needs to build its own unique style of game play, and I dont believe gear swaping is part of that.
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    Naylia Petrova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akuun View Post
    It was horrible in 11, and it would be horrible if they added it to 14.
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    6. seriously? (next time you're in a bar fight, just try and change shirts)
    Or skirts....
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    Julie Nymphiel
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    Please no.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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    Chief Currahee
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    No gear swapping please.

    it was my least favorite aspect of FFXI. How i hated soloing on drg and having to macro 3 gear swaps into my healing breath macro. Or playing on a DD job and swapping ingear just for 1 TP attack.

    *IF and WHEN* SE creates more defined roles for each job, and adjusts gear accordingly, that gear should fit all aspects of that job. Period.
    Create set bonuses. So that if 2,3,4, or 5 pieces of that gear give you greater bonuses on top of what is already attached to each piece. That way you can mix and match, but still receive greater bonuses of equipping parts of a set, negating the need to swap gear.
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    As much as I love FFXI, I don't think gear swapping should be in XIV. It's pretty annoying to need several sets of gear for one situation.
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    Kirth Azureblade
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Gear swapping was something that grew out of terrible design and itemization for gear in FFXI. Gear should be itemized properly for the class it's designed for. I'd love to see set-bonuses and stats that make sense, particularly if they're going to release gear that's in the same vein as Artifact/Relic/Empyrean armor. World of Warcraft does an excellent job of creating multiple armor sets for one class that create an incentive to collect entire sets and use them together. I also hope to never see another negative stat again on gear again. Gear swapping is stupid.
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    Everyone says customability to a job by being able to pick your own gear and that will never be true for this fact:

    Eventually players will find the best gear that will give you the most attack or acc or ws damage combination etc and everyone will flock to getting those pieces of gear because it is what is best and then there will be the players that want to do their own thing but when it is time to get into a high end game shell they will want what is best and you still face the issue of im still going after the same gear as everybody else. There was a point earlier in the thread about how i used to get booted from parties because i didn't want to gear swap but the tank that did got picked up even with the formula now which obviously doesn't work or we wouldn't be talking about this if you have a Paladin or or whatever the job is called that has all HQ gear and that little bit of defense difference it will become the norm then you will have the player that wants to do his own thing and when it comes time to doing high end game in a shell that strives to be the best or has other players doing what it takes to be the best you still will face the problem of being considered gimp.

    Another point is if im a mage and i go in with a Magic accuracy build to land key enfeebles on high end mobs when it comes time to nuke and do something else in battle it was nice being able to gear swap on rdm and do a little damage on magic bursts time to time it added another feature to battle. Gear swapping allowed for your job to be unique and do everything it has the potential to do with this system and the attribute trash that we were left with upon release limits us to one or the other. I don't understand how we call ffxi was terrible design when were presented with the crap we have now obviously this doesn't work or we wouldn't be playing for free right now or have a thread for this. You say lets have gear that benefits everything i can't imagine the stats gear would have to have to be able to max out fast cast, magic acc, magic attack, cure potency, mp regeneration

    What we have now is pathetic to everyone but DOH and DOL jobs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mioko View Post
    Everyone says customability to a job by being able to pick your own gear and that will never be true for this fact:

    Eventually players will find the best gear that will give you the most attack or acc or ws damage combination etc and everyone will flock to getting those pieces of gear because it is what is best and then there will be the players that want to do their own thing but when it is time to get into a high end game shell they will want what is best and you still face the issue of im still going after the same gear as everybody else. There was a point earlier in the thread about how i used to get booted from parties because i didn't want to gear swap but the tank that did got picked up even with the formula now which obviously doesn't work or we wouldn't be talking about this if you have a Paladin or or whatever the job is called that has all HQ gear and that little bit of defense difference it will become the norm then you will have the player that wants to do his own thing and when it comes time to doing high end game in a shell that strives to be the best or has other players doing what it takes to be the best you still will face the problem of being considered gimp.

    Another point is if im a mage and i go in with a Magic accuracy build to land key enfeebles on high end mobs when it comes time to nuke and do something else in battle it was nice being able to gear swap on rdm and do a little damage on magic bursts time to time it added another feature to battle. Gear swapping allowed for your job to be unique and do everything it has the potential to do with this system and the attribute trash that we were left with upon release limits us to one or the other. I don't understand how we call ffxi was terrible design when were presented with the crap we have now obviously this doesn't work or we wouldn't be playing for free right now or have a thread for this. You say lets have gear that benefits everything i can't imagine the stats gear would have to have to be able to max out fast cast, magic acc, magic attack, cure potency, mp regeneration

    What we have now is pathetic to everyone but DOH and DOL jobs
    Yes, people are going to get the best gear, it's part of what drives motivation in MMOs. That's not going to change. I think maybe you spent too much time in FFXI rolling with elitist players that pull that kind of attitude. My current linkshell in FFXI doesn't do that at all. We strive to get everyone shiny bits, but don't look down on them if they don't have the optimum TP/MDT/PDT/DD gear so long as they're interested in making their character better. Now, would you rather pursue finishing one set of gear that's currently the best for your class, or would you rather spend your time pursuing multiple best sets for every single thing you want to do with your class? The problem is itemization, and it needs to be handled correctly. Class balances are going to have a lot to do with this. Gear shouldn't distinguish your class, its abilities and traits should. If you like gear swapping and min/maxing that way, don't worry, FFXI isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mioko View Post
    Eventually players will find the best gear that will give you the most attack or acc or ws damage combination etc and everyone will flock to getting those pieces of gear
    Not necessarily. When creating character you chose race/gender and you chose guardian and birthday too. Gear stats may vary on race, gender, guardian and birthday making "the best possible gear set" different for every char.
    And I dont mean every single piece of gear using all those factors to determine stats.

    For example body slot gear stats could be linked with your guardian (up to 12 different BEST body parts for the same job), shoes with your race/gender (like 15 different best shoes), Gloves with day of your birth (lets say one item has best stats for those born on 1st - 6th day of the month, other for 7-12, others for 13-18, 19-24, 25-31, and we got 6 different best hands), etc.

    Actually they could easily apply that to existing armours.
    For example:
    Iron Celata - Favors: Hyur, Roegadyn
    Iron Celata (Green) - Favors: Miqo'te, Lalafell
    Iron Celata (Brown) - Favors: Elezen

    Normal stats: HP+36 STR+2
    Stats on proper race: HP+50 STR+4.

    Of course there should be equivalents for every piece of gear so everyone should be able to reach exactly the same BEST stats no matter what race/gender/guardian you got. Equivalents should be similarly hard to obtain too. And all stats should be visible to players so we could determine weather something suits you, or it does not.
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    Chromeo Ellobo
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    No please to gear swapping. Yes, it may add a bit more strategy and complexity to battles, but it also means you'll have to carry extra gear filling inventory space, as well as having to adapt to a level of elitism that plagued FFXI.
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