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  1. #1221
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinigamiKayla View Post
    the people who don't care or not are mostly voting against it what are you talking about warlock >.>...
    I believe he mean 500+ votes for an english forum is quite a small % compare to the actual game community that includes the other forum on this site but I digress.
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  2. #1222
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    Quote Originally Posted by inrainbows View Post
    This makes no sense. If 500 people are passionately for, 130 people are passionately against and a few thousand don't care.

    Why SE are so concerned for the small amount of bigots is incredible.
    Well the thread started with ppl not giving a damn if it was implemented or not before ppl in favor or against so yeah...
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  3. #1223
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    you joined forums in sep 2012 and your highest char is 31... and your denying people happiness because its "gross" to you?... I can't say anything without being banned from forums... yet people like you can make fun of people like that and get away with it... sigh... justice...
    Actually its level 46 not sure why it isn't updated but thats beside the point.
    someone might like killing (Dexter :P), but does it make it right?
    to most of us killing (just for fun or whatever sick idea) is wrong, but to some its right,
    SSM to me is wrong, and to most normal people, to you, I dunno, this generation is weird

    I'm sure most of the people who voted no to SSM where just gross and unnatural.

    Hows that for a poor argument? (If the sarcasm isnt apparent, I will say it, it is sarcasm.)

    While I dont agree with the arguments against SSM there are ways to make logical debate - Colvin does so :P
    everything has 2 sides, to you its perfectly fine, to others its not fine at all, how would you put logic into opinions? Red is the best color, while you argue blue is, your argument can go both ways so don't you it as an argument

    LOLOLOL this is one of those guys that hits on every female character in the game then got mad when he found out it was actually guy. Ran into plenty of you while playing my sexy cat
    I have a life -_-;

    "Ew are you a breeder? I mean, you have sex with women right? Ew you're so disgusting, go away. Omg, you're so gross, I can't deal with the game anymore, I might just quit."

    That. That's how dumb you sound
    I'm sorry your post was too dumb to understand. your post is bad and you should feel bad.

    What an ignorant post. :/ I hope SE do something against blatant homophobia. I'm ashamed to have someone like you on my server.

    For those saying that this argument shouldn't include RL morality, SE have forced it to. If they had just implemented SSM without making a big deal of it no one would care. Instead they started and encouraged a debate.

    It's not like marriage will be important in game. Who is going to go around seeing who has married who? With SSM enabled those rational thinking people are free to marry who they like and bigots can marry other bigots. Nobody loses. Nobody cares. I'm amazed SE made this an issue :/
    Just like you called me an ignorant I can easily call you an ignorant for supporting SSM, still a poor argument, I'm glad SE forced real life morality

    While SSM in game has no direct effects in game, it can actually cause hidden society problems later, people just want what they want without thinking of the consequences and say let others deal with it. you're all just ignorant without knowing so, I'm sure none of you was born from a gay couple. and those who have a gay couple parents, what are their fault for not having a mother, or a father(in case of 2 mothers)? you are denying them a normal life. You know that if this continue on, the population will decrease?
    What about all the children that were thrown away because they were the result of an unprotected sex? what was their fault? you'll tell me their parent's fault? they should have not had unprotected sex? what if they were under the influence of alcohol? you will say they shouldn't be drinking much? These things happen, do you know why? because alcohol and pre-marriage sex are legal. you're not one to talk about morality or whats right and wrong.
    I never drank alcohol nor ever had pre-marriage sex, I'm 25 years old and I'm happily married and expecting my first born.

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  4. #1224
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    You're using "normality" (whatever that means) as an argument while describing your own life that for most of people isn't normal at all. You seem to live in your own small bubble thinking there's only one way to live your (family) life "right". Well, there isn't. But this is not meant as an personal attack nor does it have anything to do with this topic so let's keep the thread on tracks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SedoSan View Post
    Actually its level 46 not sure why it isn't updated but thats beside the point.
    someone might like killing (Dexter :P), but does it make it right?
    to most of us killing (just for fun or whatever sick idea) is wrong, but to some its right,
    SSM to me is wrong, and to most normal people, to you, I dunno, this generation is weird



    everything has 2 sides, to you its perfectly fine, to others its not fine at all, how would you put logic into opinions? Red is the best color, while you argue blue is, your argument can go both ways so don't you it as an argument



    I have a life -_-;



    I'm sorry your post was too dumb to understand. your post is bad and you should feel bad.



    Just like you called me an ignorant I can easily call you an ignorant for supporting SSM, still a poor argument, I'm glad SE forced real life morality

    While SSM in game has no direct effects in game, it can actually cause hidden society problems later, people just want what they want without thinking of the consequences and say let others deal with it. you're all just ignorant without knowing so, I'm sure none of you was born from a gay couple. and those who have a gay couple parents, what are their fault for not having a mother, or a father(in case of 2 mothers)? you are denying them a normal life. You know that if this continue on, the population will decrease?
    What about all the children that were thrown away because they were the result of an unprotected sex? what was their fault? you'll tell me their parent's fault? they should have not had unprotected sex? what if they were under the influence of alcohol? you will say they shouldn't be drinking much? These things happen, do you know why? because alcohol and pre-marriage sex are legal. you're not one to talk about morality or whats right and wrong.
    I never drank alcohol nor ever had pre-marriage sex, I'm 25 years old and I'm happily married and expecting my first born.

    Yeah i read this like idk... 3-4 times it really makes almost no sense... you must've been "drinking too much" just "too dumb to understand" "your post is bad and you should feel bad"...
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  6. #1226
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    Just like you called me an ignorant I can easily call you an ignorant for supporting SSM, still a poor argument, I'm glad SE forced real life morality

    While SSM in game has no direct effects in game, it can actually cause hidden society problems later, people just want what they want without thinking of the consequences and say let others deal with it. you're all just ignorant without knowing so, I'm sure none of you was born from a gay couple. and those who have a gay couple parents, what are their fault for not having a mother, or a father(in case of 2 mothers)? you are denying them a normal life. You know that if this continue on, the population will decrease?
    What about all the children that were thrown away because they were the result of an unprotected sex? what was their fault? you'll tell me their parent's fault? they should have not had unprotected sex? what if they were under the influence of alcohol? you will say they shouldn't be drinking much? These things happen, do you know why? because alcohol and pre-marriage sex are legal. you're not one to talk about morality or whats right and wrong.
    I never drank alcohol nor ever had pre-marriage sex, I'm 25 years old and I'm happily married and expecting my first born.

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    Wow I can agree on the alcohol and unprotected sex thing that can ruin families and your life but the analogy of gay or lesbian couple raising a child isn't so accurate first off I do no lesbian couples that are raising kids and they do a dam fine job in doing so even to the extent they try to teach both sides of the issue and are cool if he or she be straight relationship that cool with them I asked a question like that because not everyone is the same and was curious on it. By the number's the planet population are huge if you actual read into it there is concerns about food production in the future were there talking about not having enough food for all the people and there is more straight people then gay so having children isnt an issue for are species atm and btw I'm straight but I try dammit not to offend opposite opinion in such as way base totally off my ideology people need to become better than this.
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  7. #1227
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    Quote Originally Posted by SedoSan View Post
    While SSM in game has no direct effects in game, it can actually cause hidden society problems later, people just want what they want without thinking of the consequences and say let others deal with it. you're all just ignorant without knowing so
    Cut out all the off topic chatter to your main point.
    Ignoring the fact that there is nothing actually wrong with homosexuality, the game allows you to endlessly murder anything you want, under your argument we should cut that out too because it might make people become murderers like SSM in a video game might make people gay. (which is also incorrect)
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  8. #1228
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    You're using "normality" (whatever that means) as an argument while describing your own life that for most of people isn't normal at all. You seem to live in your own small bubble thinking there's only one way to live your (family) life "right". Well, there isn't. But this is not meant as an personal attack nor does it have anything to do with this topic so let's keep the thread on tracks.
    you can go back into topic, all what I meant with my first post is that this thread is useless, will take you nowhere. And suddenly everyone turned against me, lol. it was quite amusing to be honest but whatever, I'm just stating the obvious.

    Take care ya'all now
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    Quote Originally Posted by SedoSan View Post
    stuff
    Btw, being homosexual, and bisexual is natural. According to nature at least.

    (Before someone goes "What how can your species live and be homosexual" - there are a few animals that reproduce with a population of one gender, or can reproduce with the same gender even when there are both genders.

    Even in human history we followed along similar lines.

    Only weird people are now. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by SedoSan View Post
    someone might like killing (Dexter :P), but does it make it right?
    to most of us killing (just for fun or whatever sick idea) is wrong, but to some its right,

    I'm glad SE forced real life morality

    Your argument goes from nihilism to talking about ethics and morality

    /nod

    What's even going on inside of that head of yours kiddo?
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