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    how about we make sure that it is the gender of the player and not the character, that way there can be fantasy homosexual marriage but not real. Either that or polygamy is required for marriage in game, minimum three players. Semper trie, nunquam duo.

    In all seriousness, marriage amongst adventurers may lead to a nice feeling for some, but i would think that there are a lot of more pressing issues for the dev team at this time. Please also remember that your area of the world may have vastly different ideals about marriage than in other areas.

    I would suggest that if you have someone in mind for in game marriage, now (and up to six months after launch, if my information is correct) is the time to plan what gender you will be playing. I am sure that once the team has everything for the game mechanics and environment ready, they will work on a marriage system eventually. Whether it be opposite gender of the same race and clan, or anyone to anything. If you want to marry a tree, you have to have consent of the elemental inhabiting it first.
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    Sorry, can't help myself...One more thing then I'm hiding this thread

    A lot of kids/people who play games like this are trying to escape a harsh reality. (It used to be me with FFXI) Think of all the kids that get bullied for being, or just being perceived as gay. Think of all the ones that have tried, or actually took their lives. (For no other reason than for being themselves, for loving someone) Now imagine if they had one place, just one place, even if it was imaginary, where they felt accepted. One place where it was OK to feel and think and say what came naturally to them. If this decision saved 1 person's life, would it be worth it to you, even if it went against your Religion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn View Post
    how about we make sure that it is the gender of the player and not the character, that way there can be fantasy homosexual marriage but not real. Either that or polygamy is required for marriage in game, minimum three players. Semper trie, nunquam duo.

    In all seriousness, marriage amongst adventurers may lead to a nice feeling for some, but i would think that there are a lot of more pressing issues for the dev team at this time. Please also remember that your area of the world may have vastly different ideals about marriage than in other areas.

    I would suggest that if you have someone in mind for in game marriage, now (and up to six months after launch, if my information is correct) is the time to plan what gender you will be playing. I am sure that once the team has everything for the game mechanics and environment ready, they will work on a marriage system eventually. Whether it be opposite gender of the same race and clan, or anyone to anything. If you want to marry a tree, you have to have consent of the elemental inhabiting it first.
    I think this is just taking it a little bit to the extremes. . . . First of, a real life husband could be the account holder of both his and his wife's game accounts (listed as <male> account) leading to not being able to marry his real life wife in game. Besides, it's just a middle finger to the LGBT community saying "It's ok if you're gay ingame, but please no homo in real life"

    The second solution hits me on a more personal level, as I'd never get that bent out of shape. I do care about marriage game mechanic (yup, I do find such stuff fun while taking a break from smashing skulls and burning stuff), but not so much that I would force myself into identifying with a game character of the opposite sex, just to be able to enjoy that aspect of the game, nor would I want to, or even like to, require that my chosen marriage candidate does so @_@

    I don't even know if I will ever marry anyone in ARR, but if I chose to, I just want to be able to experience that content with whomever I chose. No restrictions.

    I do know that your suggestions were made with a good intention, but it's just a few things that I could pinpoint as perhaps not being able to work well in practice, when I first read it ^ ^;
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    Tossing in my 2 gil, I'd say sure, why not add same sex marriage? No reason to exclude people. <3

    Heck, people play the opposite gender characters rather often anyway, so not having same gender marriage seems rather strange to me.

    And in a fun fantasy game with guys running around playing female characters and girls running around playing male characters and cat-people and giant green people and teeny pointy-eared weebles running around and riding giant yellow birds and teleporting, it seems a shame to let real-world gender issues seep in as a concern.
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    I agree they should implement it and at least allow the feature for those who want to. I agree that there was probably larger issues for the Dev team to be working on but as I see it there isn't a real purpose for marriage in this game at all other than to be able to do it. So why would you add a pointless feature and limit who can access it. Seems pointless to me. If they had issues with same sex marriage then why implement a marriage feature at all?
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    They should allow it for no other reason than sometimes people don't always make their character the same gender as themselves.. if a husband and a wife play and they are both playing females, let them marry, why not? That aside, I do strongly support gay marriage and would want to see the game take a similar equal-rights stance, as much of our world continues to evolve accordingly in this direction.

    And still that being said... I also know the game is a business. As a result, they have to consider the PR problems and upset partial player base that would result from making the "wrong" decision either way.. because of this, they may just avoid making any decision at all.

    Ultimately though, I think if you don't want to give equal in-game marriage rights to every couple, you shouldn't implement in-game marriage at all. That would be the true "We're not making any decision one way or another" stance, as opposed to implementing one-sided marriage and calling it a "fragile" issue to do otherwise.
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    same sex marriage is cool with me, specially in real life. in game i vote ok to it too, only thing i don't like is wasting resources on making a church to get married in ..in the first place. it's probably something almost half the players won't do or will do just to see the cs. why argue in every mmo in creation that casual is needed to be priority cause they are the higher numbers of players then add things in game that probably 20% will end up enjoying?

    it's like the chocobo races in ffxi or the Colosseum, those zones were empty ...literally empty. those type of things no one really does in a mmo (that most enjoy progression and reward in.) the part that people do is the quests prior to it to be able to do those things. that one month is usually packed with players to get a pass or entrance to them, then empty. doing those quests = reward entrance and getting to see this new awesome thing that ends up being a dinky horrible reward.

    but it's moot point in questioning this addition since they are adding it and they think there is enough people that would enjoy it ...guess they don't get that if 90% vote yes on it that there is still probably 70% of the real game pop that don't vote or even log into these forums. the numbers don't transfer over to the minds and thoughts and actions of those who don't waist there time here voting. the empty rooms are proof enough. if you give a tv show idea to a closed audience and they all love it doesn't mean it's going to be a hit when they air it. but that is my opinion about it.
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    Hey guys, i figured out the perfect solution.

    Anyone can get married to anyone else, you go to an NPC and buy wedding rings that do not say to whom you are married, you have an instanced ceremony that only NPCs are allowed to attend and there is absolutely no outward display to show any player the identity of to whom you have been wed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn View Post
    Hey guys, i figured out the perfect solution.

    Anyone can get married to anyone else, you go to an NPC and buy wedding rings that do not say to whom you are married, you have an instanced ceremony that only NPCs are allowed to attend and there is absolutely no outward display to show any player the identity of to whom you have been wed.
    think this is horrible idea, feels like hiding. i'm not gay or have it in mind to marry anyone in game but i would say it's like legalizing medical marijuana and making me act like i'm sick just to smoke some weed. it's not the same as just straight excepting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn View Post
    Hey guys, i figured out the perfect solution.

    Anyone can get married to anyone else, you go to an NPC and buy wedding rings that do not say to whom you are married, you have an instanced ceremony that only NPCs are allowed to attend and there is absolutely no outward display to show any player the identity of to whom you have been wed.
    Huginn, again, I'll have to step in

    I can take screenshots, or anyone else can, post them in my Lodestone blog, and people would still be upset cause I was allowed to marry a. . . . Coincounter or one of the Chimmy's heads It doesn't even matter who we're married to at this point, it seems - what matters is as long as the said Chimmy's head is female, people will cheer and LOL at my choice, no matter how all else seems ridiculous. Even if the female Chimmy head is wearing a top hat and I, as a male, am in a wedding gown.
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