Marriage feedback [inofficial Poll]

[Kalaka]

I have to hear this everyday in Real life Don't bring this crap in my digital life

Seriously if im paying for this I don't want to hear about it, see anything about it

This is a game and lets keep it that way

Yeah like being LGBT people don't have to hear it everyday all the time. Please with your privilege.

[Keisuna]

I am sick and tired of the exceptionally exclusive GBLT club, no heterosexuals, no hermaphrodites and no asexuals or quirky alones. Take your agenda and go have fun, but stop badgering me.

I don't know what specific LGBT community you're talking about, but if they're not also including straight allies, intersexed, and asexual people, they're doing it wrong.

I ask you this one question: What does my marriage between myself, a man, and my wife, a woman, do to damage your life?

The damage caused by banning gay marriage has nothing to do with straight marriage itself. It has to do with banning gay marriage.

I also have some news for you, even california voted to forbid gay marriage, you are indeed in the minority, they call it "the vocal minority."

Proposition 8 in California, which passed by a slim majority, was voted on by an electorate that was influenced by ads that were shown in court to be deliberately misleading. Perry v Brown is the trial, if you'd like to look that up.

I think the most important thing to remember is while this country is still roundly divided on the issue, the younger generations are far more in favor of marriage equality than their elders. Anyone in this country who will really care that gay marriage is allowed in this game are probably the type of people who don't play or really care about video games.

Unfortunately I'm less certain that it'd go over well with the Japanese. I wouldn't know, of course, but it seems like they're still a bit behind the times on marriage equality.

[Yrusama]

I think one of the bigger questions I have is what marriage in-game entails. If it's some grand GM-run ceremony like XI's old marriages, then I can see how gay players might be envious. But if it's all player-run, I don't see why same-sex players can't hold their own ceremonies. I had a few female friends on Sargatanas put together a little wedding (by "a few" I mean all four of them got married to each other) and they seemed to have plenty of fun. I mean it seems like in real life the big problem is the legal aspect. Otherwise people would have no problem holding ceremonies. Take away any in-game benefit and marriage becomes an all-inclusive thing.

[Fylion]

Here's the thing though, isn't ALLOWING same-sex marriage easier, from a programming standpoint, than making it exclusive to opposite-sex couples? Seems likes opposite-sex marriage would require an additional parameter added to the coding (character sex) during the scripting to allow such a thing; it'd be easier just to let any two players marry. Or, am I wrong?

(If I'm not, then this means they will be putting in *extra* effort to the system to ensure same-sex marriages aren't allowed...)

[Davorok]

I prefer that SE just left Marriage out of the game entirely. Not for the sake of equality, religion or even wasted dev resources.

Minors (teenagers) play this game and although online romances occur all the time, I don't like the game actually encouraging these relationships..whether they are straight, gay, lesbian or even worse...Adult & Minor.

Yes it is a parents responsibility to monitor their child's online activities but anyone who is a parent knows it is very difficult and any of you who become parents will find out for yourselves how troubling online relationships can be with teenage children especially.

I played FFXI with my two daughters for many years and I had to set quite a few players straight about some of the inappropriate behavior and attention given to my younger daughter especially. Again, I fully realize it was my responsibility to monitor it and ultimately my "fault" for allowing them to play in the first place, but my point is that these dangers already exist without the added pressure of "kids" wanting to "marry" someone they met in an online game.

This can and many times does lead to not just hurt feelings but can lead to Bullying and even Stalking (both cyber and real life).
I just don't want anything in this game that encourages that sort of behavior so please just leave Marriage out of it.

[Keisuna]

I think one of the bigger questions I have is what marriage in-game entails. If it's some grand GM-run ceremony like XI's old marriages, then I can see how gay players might be envious. But if it's all player-run, I don't see why same-sex players can't hold their own ceremonies. I had a few female friends on Sargatanas put together a little wedding (by "a few" I mean all four of them got married to each other) and they seemed to have plenty of fun. I mean it seems like in real life the big problem is the legal aspect. Otherwise people would have no problem holding ceremonies. Take away any in-game benefit and marriage becomes an all-inclusive thing.

I doubt it will be a player run thing, the way Yoshi-P was talking about it, saying that they'll only be 'allowing' straight couples for now seemed to imply that there would be some sort of marriage mechanic built into the game somehow, whether it'll show you as married somewhere or whether GMs will officiate like in FFXI or whatever. It's very unlikely to be a player run thing.

[Keisuna]

I prefer that SE just left Marriage out of the game entirely. Not for the sake of equality, religion or even wasted dev resources.

Minors (teenagers) play this game and although online romances occur all the time, I don't like the game actually encouraging these relationships..whether they are straight, gay, lesbian or even worse...Adult & Minor.

Yes it is a parents responsibility to monitor their child's online activities but anyone who is a parent knows it is very difficult and any of you who become parents will find out for yourselves how troubling online relationships can be with teenage children especially.

I played FFXI with my two daughters for many years and I had to set quite a few players straight about some of the inappropriate behavior and attention given to my younger daughter especially. Again, I fully realize it was my responsibility to monitor it and ultimately my "fault" for allowing them to play in the first place, but my point is that these dangers already exist without the added pressure of "kids" wanting to "marry" someone they met in an online game.

This can and many times does lead to not just hurt feelings but can lead to Bullying and even Stalking (both cyber and real life).
I just don't want anything in this game that encourages that sort of behavior so please just leave Marriage out of it.

Honestly, I was actually kind of hoping they'd just put a cathedral there and let the players who are getting married handle it. I'm sorry to hear about how your daughters have been treated, though. There really should be something that tells people that they're dealing with a minor, but I can also see how that could be detrimental too.

[Gugnir]

SE should grant shared inventory, gil, housing, gear or at least some tangible benefit of being married to make it worth the effort. My partner and I don't need confirmation of our love, especially in a video game. At the same time its not like we would invite strangers off the street to our ceremony, and I'm pretty sure that is how it would be for most couples so I don't see how this issue can even effect people who disagree.

[Arec]

The thing about Prop8 is that 74million dollars of that campaign was donated by religious faith which infact politics and faith are suppose to remain separate. Its politically incorrect to infringe upon others rights using your faith. Just on that note. The only reason why people dont like it becauses its a bit odd and causes some minor emotional discomfort. Like anything would; a straight couple making out in public. People staring at you... etc etc

[KaMuiSouZou]

This is a game and people are allowed to create characters that aren't their real life gender anyways. You can have a male playing a female want to marry a female playing a female (hetersexual IRL/homosexual in game) or a male playing a male want to marry a male playing a female (homosexual IRL/heterosexual in game). Or any combination thereof.

It complicates it to the point of being simple: It's a fantasy game and people should be allowed to do what they want.

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I prefer that SE just left Marriage out of the game entirely. Not for the sake of equality, religion or even wasted dev resources.

Minors (teenagers) play this game and although online romances occur all the time, I don't like the game actually encouraging these relationships..whether they are straight, gay, lesbian or even worse...Adult & Minor.

Yes it is a parents responsibility to monitor their child's online activities but anyone who is a parent knows it is very difficult and any of you who become parents will find out for yourselves how troubling online relationships can be with teenage children especially.

I played FFXI with my two daughters for many years and I had to set quite a few players straight about some of the inappropriate behavior and attention given to my younger daughter especially. Again, I fully realize it was my responsibility to monitor it and ultimately my "fault" for allowing them to play in the first place, but my point is that these dangers already exist without the added pressure of "kids" wanting to "marry" someone they met in an online game.

This can and many times does lead to not just hurt feelings but can lead to Bullying and even Stalking (both cyber and real life).
I just don't want anything in this game that encourages that sort of behavior so please just leave Marriage out of it.

Davorok brings up a good point here, so I will say that my point applies if SE intends to have marriage in the game. (Which it seems like they already do) Perhaps other measures could be added to prevent things like bullying, stalking, etc. but I think the majority of the playerbase will want marriage.