Marriage feedback [inofficial Poll]

[Delsus]

Eagleheart is the kind of short sighted religious stance I was talking about, basing marriage not on love but the ability to procreate. Why can't someone fall in love with someone of the same sex?

If you say they can why should they not be able to get married? You don't need to get married to procreate do other animals get married before procreation?

This is the kind of question that contradicts everything you have said, also our population is increasing all the time, not going down, we are giving birth in most countries to over populate them so much so that people have said we will not be able to maintain this level for much longer.

[Eagleheart]

Eagleheart is the kind of short sighted religious stance I was talking about, basing marriage not on love but the ability to procreate. Why can't someone fall in love with someone of the same sex?

If you say they can why should they not be able to get married? You don't need to get married to procreate do other animals get married before procreation?

This is the kind of question that contradicts everything you have said, also our population is increasing all the time, not going down, we are giving birth in most countries to over populate them so much so that people have said we will not be able to maintain this level for much longer.

Again, a cursory examination of the facts will reveal that what I said is true. (o.O)> Adieu.

[Scherwiz]

Again, a cursory examination of the facts will reveal that what I said is true. (o.O)> Adieu.

Facts and Truth, you should look up the meaning of these words, for you do not speak them.

[Nikita]

Again, a cursory examination of the facts will reveal that what I said is true. (o.O)> Adieu.

Translation: I'M RIGHT!!! BECAUSE I SAY SO!! THE ONLY TRUE WORDS ARE THE ONES I SPEAK!

Someone has a god complex.

I never understand why people get so upset over things that don't affect them... What other people do is none of anyone's business unless it negatively affects others in some form. This... does not.

[AmyNeudaiz]

Again, a cursory examination of the facts will reveal that what I said is true. (o.O)> Adieu.

This guys entire argument was based on our "population diminishing" and "not being able to be a family unit" yet we've gone from 2 billion to 7 billion (and rising at an incredible rate) in the span of less than an entire life and there's also something called adoption. Not to mention his argument discredits a very important factor; emotion. Marriage has an extremely important emotional aspect and to deny that fact or call it irrelevant completely ignores the human aspect of things and implies the mindset that humans are mere cattle and marriage is simply a tool to procreate.

This brings me to the main counter to your entire argument, why do you think people get married? Only to procreate more children? What if a woman can bare no children for one of the various reasons that could happen or a man was not fertile or even if the couple chose not to have children? Does that apply the same rule to them as well and infertile couples should be denied the right to marriage? Under your naturalist argument, shouldn't same sex female couples be allowed since they can still have children with the aid of a sperm donor? This going off the fact that in a natural setting, marriage is for not procreating but for raising a child together. Or is this just showing the discrimination in your points?

People get married in real life because they love someone (Barring special cases such as arranged marriages) and same sex couples do love each other with the same intensity as opposite gender couples. And I put extra emphasis on people, because LGBT or straight, that's what you are talking about here. Not cattle whom only has the sole purpose of making this planet unsustainable with overpopulation, but people with feelings and emotion.

This is the best argument that those opposed to this have? Two completely irrelevant and inaccurate arguments that have nothing to do with FFXIV? And others calling it "political"? Others saying it will effect sales when video games that let you do MUCH worse like cut someone in half with a chainsaw become best sellers? Nonsense, all of it.

P.S. I do not in any way mean this in an insulting or rude way, but you really need to start looking at things in a truly objective way instead of this absolutist point of view that your point of view is infallible. You're coming off as a high-horse type with your ears plugged.

lt;dr main point - SE just give this to us at launch and save the despair of alienating a large portion of your player base. You are making the LGBT community feel unwanted and discriminated against but if that's not good enough, you are also inconveniencing real couples (or just friends) who have characters of the same gender that want their characters to be married together.

[Delsus]

Again, a cursory examination of the facts will reveal that what I said is true. (o.O)> Adieu.

UK:
There were 723,913 live births in England and Wales in 2011, increasing slightly (by 0.1 per cent) from 723,165 in 2010
There were 484,367 deaths registered in England and Wales in 2011, compared with 493,242 in 2010 (a fall of 1.8 per cent)
In 2011, the provisional Total Fertility Rate (TFR) decreased to 1.98 children per woman from 2.00 in 2010
Age-standardised mortality rates (ASMR) in 2011 were the lowest ever recorded for England and Wales, at 6,172 deaths per million population for males and 4,402 deaths per million population for females

So births increased in 2011, and we have more people being born than dying, deaths are also decreasing, yeah we are really (at least in UK) are gonna die out, and we can't continue. Also we have the lowest ever recorded age-standardized morality rates.

Source: http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/vsob1/...b-Key-findings

Now I know the UK is small, but I have proven there are holes in your mythical facts, you are trying to prove something so show me your facts.

You are just pulling info out of your ass to rationalize discrimination.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

Biological fact: There are several other species that hold homosexual relationships even without the advanced emotional intelligence that we've developed. So, in theory, homosexuality is completely natural until you implement an ego.

[urban]

75% of the question was useless...ex: marriage ..who give a crap about that. i play FF to escape normal daily work life not to get back into it. just my opinion sry if i offend anyone /bow

[Reika]

Lets all get back to Eorzia, and why same sex marriage should be allowed in Eorzia.

[Kye]

Lets all get back to Eorzia, and why same sex marriage should be allowed in Eorzia.

Cuz me and my lalafell boyfriend are super cutes ^___^