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    lol and this is why marriage should not be in this game period, straight or same sex. theres 2 sides to this and you cant please everybody.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbrewer225 View Post
    lol and this is why marriage should not be in this game period, straight or same sex. theres 2 sides to this and you cant please everybody.
    This is why most people have moved onto wanting to call it something else but most of those who don't want SSM are still on their side of the fence saying "nope".
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbrewer225 View Post
    lol and this is why marriage should not be in this game period, straight or same sex. theres 2 sides to this and you cant please everybody.
    To be fair though, this view could be applied to almost anything they implement. MMO players especially are rarely happy with anything they're given. So if it doesn't make 100% of the playerbase happy, they shouldn't do it.
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    you joined forums in sep 2012 and your highest char is 31... and your denying people happiness because its "gross" to you?... I can't say anything without being banned from forums... yet people like you can make fun of people like that and get away with it... sigh... justice...
    Actually its level 46 not sure why it isn't updated but thats beside the point.
    someone might like killing (Dexter :P), but does it make it right?
    to most of us killing (just for fun or whatever sick idea) is wrong, but to some its right,
    SSM to me is wrong, and to most normal people, to you, I dunno, this generation is weird

    I'm sure most of the people who voted no to SSM where just gross and unnatural.

    Hows that for a poor argument? (If the sarcasm isnt apparent, I will say it, it is sarcasm.)

    While I dont agree with the arguments against SSM there are ways to make logical debate - Colvin does so :P
    everything has 2 sides, to you its perfectly fine, to others its not fine at all, how would you put logic into opinions? Red is the best color, while you argue blue is, your argument can go both ways so don't you it as an argument

    LOLOLOL this is one of those guys that hits on every female character in the game then got mad when he found out it was actually guy. Ran into plenty of you while playing my sexy cat
    I have a life -_-;

    "Ew are you a breeder? I mean, you have sex with women right? Ew you're so disgusting, go away. Omg, you're so gross, I can't deal with the game anymore, I might just quit."

    That. That's how dumb you sound
    I'm sorry your post was too dumb to understand. your post is bad and you should feel bad.

    What an ignorant post. :/ I hope SE do something against blatant homophobia. I'm ashamed to have someone like you on my server.

    For those saying that this argument shouldn't include RL morality, SE have forced it to. If they had just implemented SSM without making a big deal of it no one would care. Instead they started and encouraged a debate.

    It's not like marriage will be important in game. Who is going to go around seeing who has married who? With SSM enabled those rational thinking people are free to marry who they like and bigots can marry other bigots. Nobody loses. Nobody cares. I'm amazed SE made this an issue :/
    Just like you called me an ignorant I can easily call you an ignorant for supporting SSM, still a poor argument, I'm glad SE forced real life morality

    While SSM in game has no direct effects in game, it can actually cause hidden society problems later, people just want what they want without thinking of the consequences and say let others deal with it. you're all just ignorant without knowing so, I'm sure none of you was born from a gay couple. and those who have a gay couple parents, what are their fault for not having a mother, or a father(in case of 2 mothers)? you are denying them a normal life. You know that if this continue on, the population will decrease?
    What about all the children that were thrown away because they were the result of an unprotected sex? what was their fault? you'll tell me their parent's fault? they should have not had unprotected sex? what if they were under the influence of alcohol? you will say they shouldn't be drinking much? These things happen, do you know why? because alcohol and pre-marriage sex are legal. you're not one to talk about morality or whats right and wrong.
    I never drank alcohol nor ever had pre-marriage sex, I'm 25 years old and I'm happily married and expecting my first born.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SedoSan View Post
    Actually its level 46 not sure why it isn't updated but thats beside the point.
    someone might like killing (Dexter :P), but does it make it right?
    to most of us killing (just for fun or whatever sick idea) is wrong, but to some its right,
    SSM to me is wrong, and to most normal people, to you, I dunno, this generation is weird



    everything has 2 sides, to you its perfectly fine, to others its not fine at all, how would you put logic into opinions? Red is the best color, while you argue blue is, your argument can go both ways so don't you it as an argument



    I have a life -_-;



    I'm sorry your post was too dumb to understand. your post is bad and you should feel bad.



    Just like you called me an ignorant I can easily call you an ignorant for supporting SSM, still a poor argument, I'm glad SE forced real life morality

    While SSM in game has no direct effects in game, it can actually cause hidden society problems later, people just want what they want without thinking of the consequences and say let others deal with it. you're all just ignorant without knowing so, I'm sure none of you was born from a gay couple. and those who have a gay couple parents, what are their fault for not having a mother, or a father(in case of 2 mothers)? you are denying them a normal life. You know that if this continue on, the population will decrease?
    What about all the children that were thrown away because they were the result of an unprotected sex? what was their fault? you'll tell me their parent's fault? they should have not had unprotected sex? what if they were under the influence of alcohol? you will say they shouldn't be drinking much? These things happen, do you know why? because alcohol and pre-marriage sex are legal. you're not one to talk about morality or whats right and wrong.
    I never drank alcohol nor ever had pre-marriage sex, I'm 25 years old and I'm happily married and expecting my first born.

    Yeah i read this like idk... 3-4 times it really makes almost no sense... you must've been "drinking too much" just "too dumb to understand" "your post is bad and you should feel bad"...
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    Just like you called me an ignorant I can easily call you an ignorant for supporting SSM, still a poor argument, I'm glad SE forced real life morality

    While SSM in game has no direct effects in game, it can actually cause hidden society problems later, people just want what they want without thinking of the consequences and say let others deal with it. you're all just ignorant without knowing so, I'm sure none of you was born from a gay couple. and those who have a gay couple parents, what are their fault for not having a mother, or a father(in case of 2 mothers)? you are denying them a normal life. You know that if this continue on, the population will decrease?
    What about all the children that were thrown away because they were the result of an unprotected sex? what was their fault? you'll tell me their parent's fault? they should have not had unprotected sex? what if they were under the influence of alcohol? you will say they shouldn't be drinking much? These things happen, do you know why? because alcohol and pre-marriage sex are legal. you're not one to talk about morality or whats right and wrong.
    I never drank alcohol nor ever had pre-marriage sex, I'm 25 years old and I'm happily married and expecting my first born.

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    Wow I can agree on the alcohol and unprotected sex thing that can ruin families and your life but the analogy of gay or lesbian couple raising a child isn't so accurate first off I do no lesbian couples that are raising kids and they do a dam fine job in doing so even to the extent they try to teach both sides of the issue and are cool if he or she be straight relationship that cool with them I asked a question like that because not everyone is the same and was curious on it. By the number's the planet population are huge if you actual read into it there is concerns about food production in the future were there talking about not having enough food for all the people and there is more straight people then gay so having children isnt an issue for are species atm and btw I'm straight but I try dammit not to offend opposite opinion in such as way base totally off my ideology people need to become better than this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SedoSan View Post
    While SSM in game has no direct effects in game, it can actually cause hidden society problems later, people just want what they want without thinking of the consequences and say let others deal with it. you're all just ignorant without knowing so
    Cut out all the off topic chatter to your main point.
    Ignoring the fact that there is nothing actually wrong with homosexuality, the game allows you to endlessly murder anything you want, under your argument we should cut that out too because it might make people become murderers like SSM in a video game might make people gay. (which is also incorrect)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SedoSan View Post
    stuff
    Btw, being homosexual, and bisexual is natural. According to nature at least.

    (Before someone goes "What how can your species live and be homosexual" - there are a few animals that reproduce with a population of one gender, or can reproduce with the same gender even when there are both genders.

    Even in human history we followed along similar lines.

    Only weird people are now. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Btw, being homosexual, and bisexual is natural. According to nature at least.

    (Before someone goes "What how can your species live and be homosexual" - there are a few animals that reproduce with a population of one gender, or can reproduce with the same gender even when there are both genders.

    Even in human history we followed along similar lines.

    Only weird people are now. :P
    Genetic wise no we need each gender to produce comparing us to a netural sex species is kinda out there. However sperm banks and other ways are out there but you still need someone to give the birth. Take that away and your left with one option really then if it came down to it in a apocalypse way :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by odintius View Post
    Genetic wise no we need each gender to produce comparing us to a netural sex species is kinda out there. However sperm banks and other ways are out there but you still need someone to give the birth. Take that away and your left with one option really then if it came down to it in a apocalypse way :P
    The example was to state that there are animals that are bisexual (reproduce with females but will have sex with males) and there are animals that reproduce homosexually but also have a gender (not counting sexless animals).

    There is a group of hammerhead sharks that can reproduce with a male and with themselves XD wild..

    Anyway I'm saying the only werido's are us - we care about whats natural but nature doesnt give a damn. So obviously its natural.

    Not saying every human should go homosexual lol, but as a species we would do just fine being bisexual. Of course we do just fine being hetrosexual as well - but you dont hear hetrosexuals bitching to other hetrosexuals "you must have a child (through sex only, no adoption)!!" (usually :P)
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