Ending, plot discussion. Warning: Spoilers

[Dagr81]

i'm going to put this out there,
What if the 12 are The Knights of the Round now there are 13. The head being the King
the 12 knight seal bahamut away and seal there powers in stones to protect the people if bahamut is to ever brake free.
Now what would have happen to the king(maybe turned into Odin?)
or posible he is bahmut?

on another note i do find that ffxiv and ffxi bahamut look alike
and i thought Eroza was part of the world what about the other countrys?

[indira]

looks like bahamut will be a boss of ARR.

[Dannythm]

I feel that Cid KNEW that Bahmut was inside Dalamud, his unsurprised look points at this.

I think Atomos were summoed BY Bahamut to feed him the aether that was by rights his, I think it may be that Aetherites and all those were doing the reverse flow, they were using Bahamut as a means to get energy and all, the ones who imprisioned bahamut used them as a power source, so Atomos was the mean of Bahamut to regain his own strength.

[Forte]

My 2 cents on the matter;
I think both Odin and Bahamut are both "Ancient Primals." The Allgans are the ones who turned Odin into a "Ancient Primal" as a reward or honor (remember this being said no idea were been ages maybe first mention of Odin in live letter?). So why would they "make" a Primal?

Maybe once they imprisoned Bahamut they knew he was going to need a warden and thus created Primal Odin just for this job; he could also step in and stop Bahamut from rampaging (thus the low damage to the world 5 years in the future). They have showed CGI of Odin so there is a movie of him some place in ARR. When 2.0 starts it could be him rushing in to stop Bahamut, injuring him and he flees as to so recover (reason Odin become a wandering Primal since he is hunting Bahamut and reason world isnt a wasteland when he start 2.0).

Sorry for walls of words ~_~; but thats my 2 cents

[Totorixiii]

My 2 cents on the matter;
I think both Odin and Bahamut are both "Ancient Primals." The Allgans are the ones who turned Odin into a "Ancient Primal" as a reward or honor (remember this being said no idea were been ages maybe first mention of Odin in live letter?). So why would they "make" a Primal?

Maybe once they imprisoned Bahamut they knew he was going to need a warden and thus created Primal Odin just for this job; he could also step in and stop Bahamut from rampaging (thus the low damage to the world 5 years in the future). They have showed CGI of Odin so there is a movie of him some place in ARR. When 2.0 starts it could be him rushing in to stop Bahamut, injuring him and he flees as to so recover (reason Odin become a wandering Primal since he is hunting Bahamut and reason world isnt a wasteland when he start 2.0).

Sorry for walls of words ~_~; but thats my 2 cents

I see that highly likely the case. 2 Wandering primals in 2.0. The presumption is good to me in my opinion.

[Majidah]

Two things.

First,
I'd like to nip in the bud that theory of the 12 not existing. They aren't just a cage for Bahamut.
Case in point: prayers during the invasions gave buffs and debuffs based on who you prayed for.

Second,
I agree with this idea that perhaps atomos might work for bahamut.
Why? The invasions. They had deepvoid enemies. Minions of Atomos.

Perhaps he was redirecting the aether from the aetherytes towards bahamut in order to empower him.

Not 100% sure, just think its a viable explanation for Atomos and the deepvoid monsters throughout the invasions.

[Gokulo]

Two things.

First,
I'd like to nip in the bud that theory of the 12 not existing. They aren't just a cage for Bahamut.
Case in point: prayers during the invasions gave buffs and debuffs based on who you prayed for.

They might still only turn out to be a kind of a "system" governing eorzea and its aether. Look how unusual that barrier looked

[NoloeTazier]

Two things.

First,
I'd like to nip in the bud that theory of the 12 not existing. They aren't just a cage for Bahamut.
Case in point: prayers during the invasions gave buffs and debuffs based on who you prayed for.

Second,
I agree with this idea that perhaps atomos might work for bahamut.
Why? The invasions. They had deepvoid enemies. Minions of Atomos.

Perhaps he was redirecting the aether from the aetherytes towards bahamut in order to empower him.

Not 100% sure, just think its a viable explanation for Atomos and the deepvoid monsters throughout the invasions.

Atomos works for no one, he only does what he does. Deepvoid monsters are beings that follow him through the void he creates as he switches dimensions/plains. If Atomos was working for Bahamut, he would have appeared sooner in the storyline than when he did, he only appeared when the aether flows themselves began to become unstable as Dalamud sapped at the aether.

Just because magical things begin to happen doesn't mean it automatically gives proof to The Twelve. The Twelve "altars" were just too perfectly positioned around Eorzea for me to say this was divine intervention. They were practically a circle with the Tomb of Xandes (the altar in Mor Dhona, also associated and near The Crystal Tower and the tomb of an Allgan king) right in the middle. That sounds more like a weapon to me than some entities watching and moving pieces around like chess. The Twelve could have easily existed in the past, Twelve people who sealed Bahamut the first time, of which some went and founded Ul'dah, Limsa Lomina, Gridania, and Ishgard. I can easily see the stories being passed down and the true understanding of these people raised to the form of gods.

[Majidah]

Atomos works for no one, he only does what he does. Deepvoid monsters are beings that follow him through the void he creates as he switches dimensions/plains. If Atomos was working for Bahamut, he would have appeared sooner in the storyline than when he did, he only appeared when the aether flows themselves began to become unstable as Dalamud sapped at the aether.

Just because magical things begin to happen doesn't mean it automatically gives proof to The Twelve. The Twelve "altars" were just too perfectly positioned around Eorzea for me to say this was divine intervention. They were practically a circle with the Tomb of Xandes (the altar in Mor Dhona, also associated and near The Crystal Tower and the tomb of an Allgan king) right in the middle. That sounds more like a weapon to me than some entities watching and moving pieces around like chess. The Twelve could have easily existed in the past, Twelve people who sealed Bahamut the first time, of which some went and founded Ul'dah, Limsa Lomina, Gridania, and Ishgard. I can easily see the stories being passed down and the true understanding of these people raised to the form of gods.

The old elvaan said we were using only part of the power of the twelves because summoning the dieties entirely would lay waste to eorzea's energy. Or something along those lines.

Also the Archons are the reincarnation of the 12.

The praying stones could have been placed strategically? Sure.
Is it a more effective way to be heard by the 12 than praying anywhere? Of course.

But lets not fall in the egg and the chicken. The 12 came first. Maybe it was the Allagans who created the praying stones in order to channel the 12's power into a cage.

[Enyce]

Hmmm, What if The "Twelve" is really some sort of Magic/Technology combine that the Allagans used to "capture" Bahamut in the past, so that they could potentially use him as a weapon. We see that the "prayers" activated what looked like "Magic" (maybe even some ancient technology) that called out the "twelve imprisonment keys" we see again go at Bahamut with a new Dalamud moon to trap him again. Could it be that Bahamut is simply pissed that he has been imprisoned and is now going to seek revenge?