Shinryu, huh.

[NoloeTazier]

Nitpicking, but you cannot not belong to a race

If you consider him a Primal I guess you can only associate him with the Dravnians who are the ones who summoned him. Or you could assume he's a former pet of the Allgans and guarding The Crystal Tower.

[Sleverin]

Thanks for the clarification...I hadn't seen the opening movie in some time and forgot about all that cool cutsecnery. Also, now that 14 is over (for now) it makes me think, "Holy crap, THAT'S what Mor Dhona used to look like?" Also....whats with the monsters coming out of the ship/dragon...hmm.

[NoloeTazier]

Thanks for the clarification...I hadn't seen the opening movie in some time and forgot about all that cool cutsecnery. Also, now that 14 is over (for now) it makes me think, "Holy crap, THAT'S what Mor Dhona used to look like?" Also....whats with the monsters coming out of the ship/dragon...hmm.

If you watch, the Primals do not appear until the Agrias and Midgarsormr collide into the lake. The Crystal Tower is under the lake, my theory is the explosion released them. For clarification the 'battle' of Silvertear Falls was 10 years before our time in Eorzea.

[Sleverin]

Yeah I remember that part of the storyline...but hmm that's interesting. If the primals were trapped in the tower beforehand, were they contacting their representatives (Amal'jaa, etc.) during their confinement...? Hmm, so much new stuff to think about.

[Alerith]

Yeah I remember that part of the storyline...but hmm that's interesting. If the primals were trapped in the tower beforehand, were they contacting their representatives (Amal'jaa, etc.) during their confinement...? Hmm, so much new stuff to think about.

Even more curious, and I think the only thing that could have made the trailer more epic, was each beastmen race (including the ones we hadn't seen yet) summoning their Primals for a Bahamut vs Primal Battle Royale.

[NoloeTazier]

Yeah I remember that part of the storyline...but hmm that's interesting. If the primals were trapped in the tower beforehand, were they contacting their representatives (Amal'jaa, etc.) during their confinement...? Hmm, so much new stuff to think about.

The City States and Beastmen tribes use to meet and trade, the Beastmen would trade Crystals. But once the Primals "appeared" (the Sylphs tell us) they begin to hoard them and use them to summon the Primals into existence. So you can assume before the incident and maybe even after for a while, the Beastment were not in contact with the Primals.

[Sleverin]

The City States and Beastmen tribes use to meet and trade, the Beastmen would trade Crystals. But once the Primals "appeared" (the Sylphs tell us) they begin to hoard them and use them to summon the Primals into existence. So you can assume before the incident and maybe even after for a while, the Beastment were not in contact with the Primals.

Hmm, yeah I remember the whole crystal collecting thing and the problems that was causing. Hmm, shoot, with all this new discussion I wish I had started this earlier so I could check the cutscenes...time to look on youtube!

[Achtzen]

I don't think the twelve were even summoned, I think it was just sealing magic to re-imprison bahamut/shinryu in Dalamud. The beast had gained too much power for the seal to complete.

[Yrusama]

I think it's more that our prayers weren't strong enough to save us. It looked more like a spell than the gods themselves. Or maybe we should have done the beastmen thing and collected crystals.

Then again if it was a full manifestation of the Gods' power, that's like failing to catch a Pokemon with the Master Ball.

[Alerith]

I don't think the twelve were even summoned, I think it was just sealing magic to re-imprison bahamut/shinryu in Dalamud. The beast had gained too much power for the seal to complete.

I think it's more that our prayers weren't strong enough to save us. It looked more like a spell than the gods themselves. Or maybe we should have done the beastmen thing and collected crystals.

Then again if it was a full manifestation of the Gods' power, that's like failing to catch a Pokemon with the Master Ball.

I honestly think it was both.

The sealing spell was to contain him in another Dalamud like prison. Right before breaking free, the symbols of the Twelve were rising, I think to represent that they were being summoned.

Then Bahamut breaks free before the summoning can be completed.