Will Relics create the same problems that they did in FFXI?

[Majidah]

Welcome to the world of MMO's. In WoW, each expansion a legendary weapon came out that people sweat blood to obtain, then the next expansion came and they became out dated. It is a cruddy feeling, but that is what happens in a gear progressive game.

It is nice however they are making methods of upgrading them. Honestly, the relics can't be the most powerful forever. Do you not plan on ever getting a new weapon again? It is a fair balance however to keep them the most powerful, but you have to upgrade them again.

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[Deakka]

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Welcome most MMO's to date outside of possibly GW2 (wherein there are no OMGWTFBBQ BiS). The gear treadmill is proven to work, and it always gives you something to look forward to in the reasonable future. You're still on the XI mentality, where people rage anytime a former BiS item loses it's luster.

We can either go back to the ffxi days of low drop rates, 3-7 day spawn periods, and archaic dragon's aery camping, or we can go with the new style which means your gear may become obsolete in <7 years time. The old mentality really only works with FFXI, it just doesn't mesh with modern gaming.

[Velhart]

Welcome most MMO's to date outside of possibly GW2 (wherein there are no OMGWTFBBQ BiS). The gear treadmill is proven to work, and it always gives you something to look forward to in the reasonable future. You're still on the XI mentality, where people rage anytime a former BiS item loses it's luster.

We can either go back to the ffxi days of low drop rates, 3-7 day spawn periods, and archaic dragon's aery camping, or we can go with the new style which means your gear may become obsolete in <7 years time. The old mentality really only works with FFXI, it just doesn't mesh with modern gaming.

Basically this:

While the gear treadmill isn't original, it works, and works well in modern day MMO's. I do believe it will take some FFXIV players a while to get use to this. For how this game is set up, I do believe this will be one of the better routes to take for this game.

[Reika]

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Any progression based MMO that increases its lvl caps/has expansions makes your previous expansion gear irrelevent when they do. Since FFXIV is adding Ilvl, I think they are about to become progression based.

They're most likely going to have their Relic weapon upgrade quest, hopefully not blasted with the copy/paste beam like Relic Reborn, but if they aren't retarded about it, no one is going to be able to just "Go right for" the upgrade just because they have the previous expansions relic weapon. They're going to have to progress towards being able to do it.