Quote Originally Posted by Req View Post
If you had someone give you all their currency in XI you could get the quest line done within a few days as well if it werent for the fact that it was designed to make you wait a certain amount of time between each phase of the quest line.
Except for the small detail that at the 75 cap, you needed a skilled group that knows Dynamis well to get the Attestation in Glacier & down all the demon NMs + down the animated weapon in Xarc. I'm not saying those things are overly hard per-se, just that doing them does take actual player skill and a group that has had plenty of practice in Dynamis in general. I knew a guy that was super rich, bought all his relic currency & then couldn't get the quest done for the longest time because his linkshell didn't have the skill to get him his last 2 items.

Again, getting those items isn't hard for a skilled group that knew Dynamis well, but I see multiple people in this thread claiming anyone could get a relic if they had the currency. Just not true. Now I will concede that in today's XI, that's probably true. I would think you could finish a relic there these days just as fast as you can on XIV, since the cap is 99. But at the 75 cap? No. You needed a skilled group (or at the very least skilled people leading the runs & doing the sac pulls) for the last parts of the quest, just like you need a skilled group for Ifrit Extreme.

As far as the XIV relic = XI AF weapons, I don't agree with that at all. It's more like XIV relic = XI Empyrean weapons in terms of the time it takes to get one. Last time I played XI on a reg, the cap was still 90. Back then it took about a week (sometimes less depending on the weapon) to finish the trials for the level 85 version of the Empys. Empys are slightly easier due to the fact that even with the last 2 trials (for the 85 ver at least) being RNG grinds, you usually always get at least 1 item. The point is; they are realy nice weapons that don't take too long to get with a good static, just like the XIV relics.

As for the original topic of conversation, there is no doubt the XIV relics will be upgradable. But I wouldn't be shocked to see weapons from the hardest content at the start of 2.0s life that are equal to relics. I also wouldn't be shocked if the upgrades get harder and harder over time to thin the herd a bit & we end up with only a fraction of those with relics that have the top tier upgrades.