Will Relics create the same problems that they did in FFXI?

[Zenaku]

7/11 brd
7/20 mnk
7/22 war
7/29 drg
8/1 blm
8/9 whm
8/12 pld

So it took me 32 days to get all 7. I believe neri and I were the first 2 NA to complete all 7. At the time not many strats were out for the faction leve's and ifritx was close to farm status for us. Knowing what I know now I could do it in 2 weeks AFTER the first ifrit kill.

None of that can be done without a really good ls/static though. (Also the majority of the people i know/play with don't even want all 7) I believe it is too easy to get in its current progression.

Yep take about 5days or less to get relic if your linkshell is not poor it would take less because they just buy the wep/coins which is the most time sink to do that and SB lol but if you do it together and powerlevel should only take one day or so.

[Nero]

Nero, you need to do some research buddy. You talk about strawman arguments and act like you know all this stuff first-hand. The reality is you don't. There are many metagame factors you just completely ignore that hinder the relic quest progress, in addition to the, admittedly, few in-game roadblocks.

Before posting it's best to take a look around. Your opinions, and those of some others as well, are coming from a very narrow camp. It's apparent your thoughts on things are based simply on what you see on your server and not the game at large. Is that constructive enough for you now? I hope so.

P.S. Reading comprehension is taught in high school.

Then you should go back to School, since you obviously did not get my Point.

Beside that, if you think i base my Comments on things i see just on my Server, you are totally wrong. Comments coming from a Narrow Camp and you base that on what? 3% of the Playerbase use that Forum and now you are telling me something about "and not the game at large."?

My Statement was.. i will just repeat it for you:

Well, i am basing my Comment's on certain Aspect's, which includes the insane short Timeframes. I never said everyone and their mom is able to do it. Its about comparing FFXI Relic and FFXIV Relic and like i said, FFXIV Relic are more like FFXI AF-Weapons, time-wise. While Legendary Weapon i.e. Excalibur, will be more like what FFXI Relic were; Rare to have.

People alike you running around and pointing a finger and say i am wrong, because i did not have achieved a certain aspect of the game, is just a really cheap way of telling me that you dont actually have arguements, which would disprove my point.

[syntaxlies]

This is the worst part. Some people take a long to time to recover from Hamlet Farm Mode. Relying on other people not to suck or even show up is the biggest obstacle.

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One thing I'm really hoping for is a quest to gain access to Artifact Armor 6 Piece Bonus

AF Armor + Relic and a bonus from each piece for having all 6 pieces.

(Holy Shield - Results Pending)

would have to be some sort of mega bonus to make up for most af gear being completely sub-par to most other gear. I dont desire a set bonus for it but from what im hearing there will be vanity slots so you can were it if you want and get better stats from other gear.

[syntaxlies]

Then you should go back to School, since you obviously did not get my Point.

Beside that, if you think i base my Comments on things i see just on my Server, you are totally wrong. Comments coming from a Narrow Camp and you base that on what? 3% of the Playerbase use that Forum and now you are telling me something about "and not the game at large."?

My Statement was.. i will just repeat it for you:

Well, i am basing my Comment's on certain Aspect's, which includes the insane short Timeframes. I never said everyone and their mom is able to do it. Its about comparing FFXI Relic and FFXIV Relic and like i said, FFXIV Relic are more like FFXI AF-Weapons, time-wise. While Legendary Weapon i.e. Excalibur, will be more like what FFXI Relic were; Rare to have.

People alike you running around and pointing a finger and say i am wrong, because i did not have achieved a certain aspect of the game, is just a really cheap way of telling me that you dont actually have arguements, which would disprove my point.

i think riding a uni cycle is really easy because i saw someone who never rode one before pick it up rather fast, i however can not ride a unicycle.

[Nero]

i think riding a uni cycle is really easy because i saw someone who never rode one before pick it up rather fast, i however can not ride a unicycle.

Apples and Oranges..

All people currently do is saying "Hey you didnt do it, how would you know"? Doesnt change simple facts..

7/11 brd
7/20 mnk
7/22 war
7/29 drg
8/1 blm
8/9 whm
8/12 pld

From someone who did it, proving my point WAR Relic done in 2 days.

[Zenaku]

Apples and Oranges..

All people currently do is saying "Hey you didnt do it, how would you know"? Doesnt change simple facts..



From someone who did it, proving my point WAR Relic done in 2 days.

yep it super easy just get more ore and more salt and put the of the item like chocobo item the darkhold and behest one in your npcs/bazzar and you could do 4 relics in 2-3days just have to make sure you have all the coins/DM weps on you The only thing that going to take you time is SB.

[Kiote]

It's more than likely that Relics as they are now will only be phase one. When the level cap is increased a second time, there will likely be a Relic Upgrade system added.

[Meatdawg]

From someone who did it, proving my point WAR Relic done in 2 days.

That is a tad misleading though as the prep work for that was done between 7/11 and 7/20. So while yes it did take 2 days, that would not be possible without the previous 9 days of farming. (some of that is also waiting on more then 1 person who is ready for the ifrtx kill too)

[Reika]

It's more than likely that Relics as they are now will only be phase one. When the level cap is increased a second time, there will likely be a Relic Upgrade system added.

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[Lavieh]

Nero, you need to do some research buddy. You talk about strawman arguments and act like you know all this stuff first-hand. The reality is you don't. There are many metagame factors you just completely ignore that hinder the relic quest progress, in addition to the, admittedly, few in-game roadblocks.

Before posting it's best to take a look around. Your opinions, and those of some others as well, are coming from a very narrow camp. It's apparent your thoughts on things are based simply on what you see on your server and not the game at large. Is that constructive enough for you now? I hope so.

P.S. Reading comprehension is taught in high school.

Kind of funny how you bring Logical fallacies within a logical fallacy... Just wanted to point that out.


Anyway, Relic's seem to be too easy to obtain in FFXIV. I didn't finish mine but that is because I started late and my group wanted to focus Nael the last week as opposed to Ifritx, since apparently Iffyx is a hard fight to learn but once you get it down it becomes like clockwork. Regardless, leading up to it was quite easy and a lot of people got all their relics with no problem at all. I personally did all the work for mine aside from farming coins which my LS pooled ours together (Aka farm up mats and make weapon and double meld them myself) even with those factors included it felt really easy.

Though I like the ideal of one super weapon and a few situational weapons ect. because it always gives you something to aim for weapon wise and then something to aim for stat wise. SE has already mentioned that Relics will become upgradable meaning that you will probably have to work your butt off to make it viable over other weapons at the next level cap! Hopefully they make the upgrade part challenging and such and put weapons that are better than a non-upgraded relic but still I'd rather have a game centered around one superior weapon with alternating builds around it as opposed to one with a few mediocre weapons that all serve different functions. Some Diversity is great but too much can lead to confusion and just an unsatisfying experience.