Will Relics create the same problems that they did in FFXI?

[MicahZerrshia]

U coulda got a Mythic

But you actually have to (/gasp) work (/shock) for those (/feint), cant buy/farm gil and get fast mythics.

I for one always was meh on xi relics, started working on the mandau and just ended up selling all the currency I had stashed away for it, then it happened again with excalibur. My goal always was at least one mythic but organizing those events and keeping everyone interested for that long a time was nearly impossible. The dyna ls I had ran smooth for years and we could alway pick up non-ls members to fill any gaps. 6+ years of xi and I still dont even have capt rank >< just because of the lack of interest and the work you need to actually put into it. Then having to do them all again for the mythic quest, def isnt/wasnt going to happen

Now with gil being meaningless making getting an empy and even relics so incredibly easy ppl just look at you confused when you say you want to get a mythic (although I still want one)

Need to really get in on the ground floor with xiv and dedicate myself to getting stuff done when its shiney and new and ppl are doing it ALOT.

[Dzian]

In its prime for I would say 1 dynamis run would yield 12m worth of currency. The run only cost 1m.

LOL, so what 10 runs and you had the 100mil or so for a relic weapon. you are way off the mark. 10 runs 5 weeks for most linkshells thats about 10 completed relics a year per shell. You're numbers are way off

11 and 14 have two very different content levels and gear itemization. 11 gear grind was way harder then anything that has been and prolly will be implemented into 14.

Yet amazingly 11 content felt much more rewarding as a whole. which is primarily why everytime people post about the loot system they refer to 11. content was much more structured in xi. and you almost always saw something at the end of it. you'd go through the ball ache of grinding limbus zones to get keys but it was near impossible to walk out of ultima omega with nothing.

[Altena]

you'd go through the ball ache of grinding limbus zones to get keys but it was near impossible to walk out of ultima omega with nothing.

Actually probably one of the better points in this thread, regardless which side of the discussion you are on. AV and PW were 2 other great examples. Moderate grind (farming triggers) followed by a heavy element of skill.. AV and PW were no joke at 75 cap - to me that has a very heavy weight on skill (for the final fights themselves). I would much prefer a legendary weapon of some sort be based off this system (moderate grind followed by a skill benchmark) to the grind fest that the relic system was based on.

I am looking forward to fighting bigger and tougher bosses to upgrade the current relics I have.

[Rokien]

You don't see a problem with I got this weapon it might of taken me 2 months to get and some work but now I am set for the rest of this MMOs lifespan?

To me in FFXI it was very boring how they never came out with better weapons to get after relics until abyssea.

Ya, but in ffxi it took at least a good year to get if not more, not a month worth of grinding.

You were also looked up to. You saw a person with relic or anything rare of the sorts. You were like "Wow, this guy is sooo cool! My hero!" this game it's like, oh cool... I don't get the same reaction as I would seeing a normal relic in FFXI. Because very few people had em.

This game is soo casual, makes me puke. I want stuff in game that I will never get, just like relics in FFXI. I want stuff that only one or two people will have with a years worth of time.

That is lasting content. That's why FFXI today is still better than all these other failing mmos, FFXI is STILL holding a good subscription base even with abyssea.

[Legado]

I damn well hope so.

Relics have been a part of every FF game. 14 should be no different. The "ultimate weapons" take a lot of effort to acquire, and thus are, and should be, the best weapons available.

Don't go changing that now to appease casuals please. I LIKE earning my gear/weapons the hard way. The sense of accomplishment in 11 is why it is STILL going strong today.

There are always weapons that are similar, or very close in stats. Use those.

100x THIS ^

[Crevox]

The "ultimate weapons" take a lot of effort to acquire,

Not in this game.

Don't go changing that now to appease casuals please.

And it wouldn't be to "appease casuals."

[DoctorMog]

Not in this game.



And it wouldn't be to "appease casuals."

They are the hardest to acquire currently, still valid.

And how would you add a relic system in a FF title then where everyone could get one easily, and other weapons were potentially better?

I would love an example where that system you come up with would not only work, but people would still want to get the relic weapons, even if they aren't best in slot.

[syntaxlies]

They are the hardest to acquire currently, still valid.

And how would you add a relic system in a FF title then where everyone could get one easily, and other weapons were potentially better?

I would love an example where that system you come up with would not only work, but people would still want to get the relic weapons, even if they aren't best in slot.

he doesnt have one so his argument of not in this game is void

You don't see a problem with I got this weapon it might of taken me 2 months to get and some work but now I am set for the rest of this MMOs lifespan?

To me in FFXI it was very boring how they never came out with better weapons to get after relics until abyssea.

a lvl 50 weapon will not last the whole game, they will ned to be upgraded

[Destain]

Not in this game."

Really? Where is yours?

[Crevox]

Really? Where is yours?

How many times are people going to say this?

Relics in this game are not hard to obtain, they are simply time consuming. I don't have one because I didn't attempt to get one; I don't want any of the current relics, I only have interest in Summoner.