More Storage Space, are your retainers and your bag full??

[wolfwing]

Right now I would say that storage is really important, at elast for the moment as the games popularity drops untill there are more stuff to do, finding people who can make new armor gets a bit harder, and repairing your own gear while was always more useful, becomes more and more important as the chances of finding someone in the field that can repair might not always be possible. And as mentioned before fatigue plays a big part in it all.

I had like 20 slots of iron ore of various grades and types *liominte, iron ore, iron sand* and that took me about 5-8 hours to go through and get 1-2 levels of blacksmithing. Same with carpentry, you need alot of supplies to level up, and if your like me and gather your own supplies to cut down on costs, you need to store up alot, so your not just going back and crafting for 30 mins before you have to go back out and get more. Also you run into stuff like with alchemy and fishing, catching bone crayfish, I end up with twice as much crimson crayfish and other 40 alchemy that I'm only just now starting to be able to use with 60% success rate *But fail comes out to the exp of bone so worth it* If you could just hunt for iron ore it be simple, or pine logs and such space wouldn't matter so much, but you get so much extra material that you will need later on or for other crafts at the same time that like I said with the dye material, getting 1 type of moss brings you 6-9 more. Or logging brings you 3-5 more log types and so on.

[Xenor]

Besides the fact that there aren't 100 dyes (there are 100, if you include the moss, bugs and stainsand they are made out of, not just the dye)... are you going to use all of them?

See, your problem is that you fall into the group of people that save everything and rarely ever vendor, sell, or throw things away. You are a pack rat. That's not necessarily a bad thing (it can be beneficial)... but you only have yourself to blame for running out of space.

I will admit that when we only had 1 retainer and 4 grades of items, that it was a problem. But they have over doubled ours space and eliminated half the materials in the game. We now have PLENTY of space for people who aren't pack rats.

I NPC/drop a whole load of crap every time I go out on the field yet my main character is always about 250/300 and my mule 100/300. Why? Because I'm a goldsmith, a carpenter, a miner and a botanist. What this means is I need to hold on to all the raw gems I get NQ/+1/2/3, gems I've converted, every quality and every type of iron/silver/gold/mythril, HQ3 zinc and copper, every worthwhile log, HQ branches, various lumber of various qualities. Plus other mats that are used for crafting finished products for these crafts such as various glues, squares, nails, rivets, horns/bones etc. Then I've got the backlog of products to put up for sale that only a retard would NPC like buffalo hides, toad skins etc. Then I've got broken gear that needs vintaging at some point and the 70 or so slots my character's equipment takes up for my classes.

Now I could easily sell the iron/silver/gold/logs I'm not currently using but they're worth more as mats than gil since prices are only going up. Iron alone probably takes up about 40 slots on my mule but I'm saving that as BSM will be my next major craft.

[Moth]

Are course they are full, full to the brim, but that is my own fault not SE's

[Kaedan]

Leveling several different crafts is a worthwhile argument. Especially in situations where you need to rank up several sub jobs just to make all your crafts recipes.

Some people feel they have more inventory than they need, because they are still looking at this game as if it was a traditional one Class per character mold. Which it is not, the game pushes the concept of playing many classes on one character, its one of the core features,

You're making an incorrect assumption here. I level 4 crafts seriously and another 2 crafts as secondary (I forgot Miner and Botanist as well). In addition, I have 3 DoW/DoM classes. And I think inventory space is pretty generous. As Dreamer said, Inventory management is part of the game.

I am very short of space, yesterday both my retainers were 110/110 and I had 20 free spaces. And its not just being a pack rat, all the stuff I need for crafting.

It is you being a pack rat. That's not an insult, it's just a description of your tendency to be frugal. But, I guarantee you that you don't need all 220 spaces for your crafting. What you are doing is saving and/or buying stuff that you think you "might" need further down the road or something. And I bet you're also saving old materials that you don't use anymore, but you are saving for "if I need it."

As I stated before, no MMO will ever give you "enough" space if you save everything you collect. But, you two can rest assured that when the game becomes P2P, you'll have as much space as you're willing to pay for. You'll be able to essentially buy 110 spaces for $1 per month. That's better than some of the MMOs out there that charge for inventory space.

[Nabiri]

Actually Moogles are present in FFXIV, I ran into one doing an class rank quest in a cut scene ^^

They're supposed to be rarely seen according to lore. So having them work for us in "mog" houses wouldn't make much sense.

[Nabiri]

Well they're planning to add an AH, and it is very rare for an AH to function without a mail system.

Where did SE say that? I've never heard about it.

[Veasna]

Also can't wait for the option to buy more retainers in the future. And big yes to mailbox. It's a pain for people that have more than 1 active character and tbh if they're going to charge us 3 euro's per extra character there needs to be some kind of "boon" for the people that do. (Shared bankspace for characters of 1 account maybe?)

[Anathiel]

Im gonna go ahead and say an auction house would fix most inventory issues for the exact reason Belgian said.

[Amineri]

I think I'll inject a few numbers in, so that people can see the scope of the problem.

A quick perusal of YG's item database showed that there are approximately 3500 distinct items in the game. This does not include those items that are quest-related such as "High-quality Mythril Ore". The majority of these items are "armor" (including jewelry) at ~1500, and "crafting" (anything not equippable or usable, but theoretically able to be made into gear) also at ~1500.

Considering that there are NQ, +1, +2, and +3 versions of each of those items, the total number quickly balloons to 14,000.

I hate to point out the obvious, but 14,000 is far greater than 300.

As to being a packrat, the crafting system practically forces one to be a pack-rat. If I want to craft a leather skirt (a rank 37 tanning recipe), I must have mole-brown hempen cloth. While the cross-linking of items in recipes does promote more crafter-to-crafter interaction, the current hit-or-miss economy promotes hording of materials.

As to those the dispute the power of dyes to ruin your inventory:

Sand-beige Hemp Dye
Lead-grey Hemp Dye
Mole-brown Hemp Dye
Maize-yellow Cotton Dye
Olive-green Cotton Dye
Celeste-blue Cotton Dye
Mesa-red Cotton Dye
Sunset-auburn Canvas Dye
Rose-pink Canvas Dye
Woad-blue Canvas Dye
Orchard-brown Canvas Dye
Raven-black Velveteen Dye
Hunter-green Velveteen Dye
Wine-red Velveteen Dye
Cream-yellow Velveteen Dye
Saffron-yellow Linen Dye
Shale-brown Linen Dye
Deepsea-blue Linen Dye
Floral-pink Linen Dye

Slate-grey Sheep Leather Dye
Taupe Sheep Leather Dye
Midnight-black Dodo Leather Dye
Oxblood-red Buffalo Leather Dye
Red-ochre Buffalo Leather Dye
Moss-green Buffalo Leather Dye
Soot-black Buffalo Leather Dye
Desert-yellow Buffalo Leather Dye
Russet-brown Buffalo Leather Dye
Marsh-green Nakki Leather Dye
Dark-brown Toad Leather Dye
Loam-brown Boar Leather Dye
Light-beige Boar Leather Dye
Rust-red Boar Leather Dye
Storm-blue Boar Leather Dye

For those averse to counting, that's 33 inventory slots, or 1/3 of a retainer. Just for dyes. Heaven help you if you keep anything beyond just NQ dyes.

[TheVedis]

Ok, let me chime in with a bit here

alot of people who are running out of room really are packrats, in the worst sense

I work ALL 19 jobs in the game, thats right all 19

i have around 40 slots free on my character(when im fresh going into field)
and 20 slots on each retainer free at all times

I do keep tons of materials handy that I am going to be working on in the future
I do have 18 bows i am currently selling on both retainers among many other items I want to sell.

The difference between how I packrat and alot of others packrat, is I only keep what i know for a fact I am going to use, and I do not keep stuff that is lower then me unless I need it to make gear to sell for a fact.

in the cases of many items, it is also good to note what the best storage method is

Store logs, not lumber(1 stack of logs is equivilent to 4 stacks of lumber)
store ore, not nuggets(1 stack of ore is same as 2-3 stacks of nuggets depending on which it is)


ALso, using your mats in a timely manner also helps, Saving up enough materials to go from 1-50 before you start on any of them is not very space effective.


Ill give a list of what I have stored later for those curious how you can do all 8 crafts and still have room left for anything else. It will make more sense that way.