Quote Originally Posted by Lavieh View Post
I'm really curious to how hard you tried on the relic quest, or if you got it done or even flagged. Also your concept is a little skewed, RNG actually makes it so you have to work harder for things. Countless hours of AV/CC for Darklight drops - Thats hard work. You think the people with a good amount of darklight just got it out of sheer luck? Or because they did AV/CC as much as they could, same thing with the Seals in hamlet. Heck me and my LS spent hours farming up mats before hamlet and then hours doing hamlet until everyone got their seals. We worked hard for it, very hard actually. Weapon melds? Rng sure... But also a bit of work unless you have the gil to be lazy. I leveled up my BTN and ALC just to make my whm relic, worked my lala butt off farming Trillium and doing what I could with every synth. I eventually made my own double melded Alkuaraps(sp?) and turned that in. AV/CC 17 minute runs... You think that is pure luck? I hardly doubt it the only bit of RNG that can hamper that is Coincounter spamming AI or Marshal spamming cures BUT even with those set backs the 17 minute runs are all a matter of skill. Same thing the 15 DH run (Which is super easy), Faction quest, Garuda, Ifritx all fights you have to put effort into not to mention Spiritbonding your relic... which if you do it solo thats a few hours of dedicated killing or if some people help you thats like 3 hrs per person.

People like you are really the bane to modern MMO's because you don't realize how big of a role RNG plays on the game and how balanced it keeps things. How RNG makes your hard work show. Because when the odds are 1% sure there MAY be some luck involved but it also takes dedication because statistically you'd have to do the w/e you are doing 100 times to just see one.


Eh, I guess people will have differing views on things. But it just seems that you are posting to post as your post itself was going around in circles and just ended with a general insult to the person you were replying to. Kind of sad :C
Hi Lavieh, not sure if you read all my posts, as I said earlier I only considered RNG Hamlet and the dmeld, as I specified twice on my aforementioned posts. I did flag the quest. In fact, I was gonna work on MNK first, but got lucky on a 1/1 Astrolabe doublemeld (that I did myself, and I'm really happy about). I busted my ass for a week to get my last 8 seals, going to the point of not even sleeping the night before getting my last one from GB. Got my three ores in a night and got two salts right before save.

I'm not going to get defensive by the fact that you call me the bane of MMOs, because I think you didn't get my point at all. I didn't complain about RNG, I just said it was a bottleneck. I've had my share for many years of RNG in FFXI, and I dealt with it just fine. I'm aware of the difficulty of the relic quest. I helped my friends before I had my doublemeld (or had even thought of going for relic). Basically I've done all the steps of relic (even helped in some Ifrit X runs) without needing them. It was fun and enjoyable seeing my friends achieve such feats.

We're not keeping the weapons, I just don't see why people attack people that want them to be kept. Even if people got to keep them (we won't), I don't see why people that want the challenge could just do the quest, and toss it before picking the "real" one up. But all this is silly because no, we won't get to keep them and no amount of whining will make us keep our tooth-fairy relics.