SE Please implement a Chonoscroll/PLEX system in FFXIV: ARR

[Duuude007]

What's my XIV background? Making assumptions again?

Unless you have alts or mules with significantly more extensive history than your own, then yeah, I have a pretty good idea. No assumptions needed.

[Abriael]

Only offended because I am a precious snowflake and found it rude that you felt to claim such a power over economy and others cant, which you obviously don't have anyways.

you offend easily, mate

Interesting that the common response in the FFXIV forums about Tera and Eve is no thanks.
Your idea has its place, and it is not here. Just like F2P has its place.

Again, you seem to identify your opinion with that of the majority. Looks like selective reading to me.

It's not for you to decide what place my idea has (it's not really "my" idea mind you, as it's been invented by people that know about making MMORPGs much better than me and you combined).

You haven't beaten them you have just pushed them to make a more competitive offer.

Which is equivalent to beating them if that offer reduces their influence on the market.

To create a more effective RMT is what PLEX does. To demote RMT all together by banning those interested in it is a REAL method to lower demand on RMT.

Looks like it didn't work so far. "RMT Still exist". If you apply this concept to dismiss PLEX, then you apply it to every measure that results in "RMT still exists", which includes every single RMT countermeasure ever implemented.

Proves me wrong? All the likes on your OP post must be the perfect sample size right? I dont think so. Besides from reading most comments they dont even understand it supports pay to win.

Actually they understand the system much better than you do, mostly because a lot of them tried games that include it, and have seen its effects first hand, like I did, and you don't seem to have.

Perhaps, but I feel safe to say given a flat out description "supports RMT" "doesnt support RMT" option they will almost always pick the later.

Too bad that that "flat out" description is intentionally misleading. If you gave that "flat out" description on TERA and on EVE, they'd probably agree. But they know that the system doesn't match that misleading description, so they accepted it. All it would take is for yoshida to explain it in detail, and most would accept it, exactly like it happened elsewhere.

MMORPG players are MMORPG players. If you think that the few super-hardcore FFXI players that never played anything else have any numbers to be any majority anywhere, i see a rather large delusion there.

IS not the industry standard.

Considering that I work in the industry, I feel rather confident in saying that I know what the industry standard is quite a tad better than you do

[Abriael]

Unless you have alts or mules with significantly more extensive history than your own, then yeah, I have a pretty good idea. No assumptions needed.

Do elaborate.

(I'm interested).

[Duuude007]

Do elaborate.

(I'm interested).

Um, lodestone history? xivpads?

Statistics don't lie. Particularly with large sample sizes.

[Abriael]

Um, lodestone history? xivpads?

Statistics don't lie. Particularly with large sample sizes.

That's not an elaboration. Do Elaborate, please. Insinuation is amusing, but it hardly gets you any points.

(I'm interested).

[Duuude007]

you...want me to spell out your achievements?

Whatever ruse you are trying to trap me with, isn't going to work. Way to tangent.

[Shougun]

you offend easily, mate

Like glass.

Again, you seem to identify your opinion with that of the majority. Looks like selective reading to me.

Somethings are safe to assume - hate on pay to win is one of them. Like hate on the random number generator.

Which is equivalent to beating them if that offer reduces their influence on the market.

If increasing RMT demand was your goal. Sure.

Looks like it didn't work so far. "RMT Still exist". If you apply this concept to dismiss PLEX, then you apply it to every measure that results inN "RMT still exists"

You will never be rid of it - but without supporting it in any fashion and only demoting it you will have a real effect on demand, unlike increasing the demand.

Actually they understand the system much better than you do, mostly because a lot of them tried games that include it, and have seen its effects first hand, like I did, and you don't seem to have.

I've played the system, I get it.

Too bad that that "flat out" description is intentionally misleading. If you gave that "flat out" description on TERA and on EVE, they'd probably agree. But they know that the system doesn't match that misleading description, so they accepted it. All it would take is for yoshida to explain it in detail, and most would accept it, exactly like it happened elsewhere.

If there was a vote to add the system then so be it - but NEVER in its description should it say "preventive measures aganist RMT" as it promotes RMT.

MMORPG players are MMORPG players. If you think that the few super-hardcore FFXI players that never played anything else have any numbers to be any majority anywhere, i see a rather large delusion there.

Players will deal with shit just like humans will deal with shit for so long - its just not best to push their shit buttons.. (lots of shit.. lol)

SE has little room to push the buttons as it already is running on some bad ice.

Considering that I work in the industry, I feel rather confident in saying that I know what the industry standard is quite a tad better than you do

Considering that I breath the game industry in all (as much as I can humanly) aspects of its design I would disagree. Pay to win is for a game advantage - it doesn't have to be a game exclusive advantage like armor that only you can buy, though p2w does include that case.

You have narrowed the definition too far.

[Abriael]

you...want me to spell out your achievements?

No, I'd like to hear what, according to you, they have to do with this topic.

[Aenarion]

Um, lodestone history? xivpads?

Statistics don't lie. Particularly with large sample sizes.

It's usually not a good idea to use player level/age as the sole determinant of the skill or knowledge of the person behind the keyboard.

[Duuude007]

You accused me of making assumptions, and I explained as far as was necessary. You sir, began this tangential whirlwind.

And for that I say...grats?