SE Please implement a Chonoscroll/PLEX system in FFXIV: ARR

[Abriael]

If you don't enjoy playing this game, why are you still here?

You're the one that referenced it as "work". Not me.

Eventually you're going to have to work towards something, but as devastating as that sounds. You'll live

Don't worry, despite your petty assumptions and insinuations (it' really funny how low you can get. Comedy gold at its best), I'm very used to work towards things. Important things. And that's precisely why I don't really mind if someone else can get some virtual item easier then me.

Good for them. People do that all the time anyway (even just by being carried by their linkshell), and it doesn't affect my experience in the slightest way.

The PLEX system does not reduce any RMT activity it however makes RMT activity safer and more affordable - meaning it will increase the demand of RMTing because the price is now lower.

A false concept, proven false where the PLEX system and chronoscrolls are already successfully at work and by simple economy theory already explained in this thread. But do go on repeating it.

It also allows players who dont have the cash (maybe a teen or something) the ability to farm for a while and pay for their game.

Assuming that only teens can't afford a monthly fee or need that money better placed elsewhere shows a rather incomplete vision of the world. I suggest looking out of the window. It's very educational.

[Shougun]

A false concept, proven false where the PLEX system and chronoscrolls are already successfully at work and by simple economy theory already explained in this thread. But do go on repeating it.

Nothing you have provided says otherwise. Rather I work with the laws of economics and you are working with the laws of "I said neener neener"

Assuming that only teens can't afford a monthly fee or need that money better placed elsewhere shows a rather incomplete vision of the world. I suggest looking out of the window. It's very educational.

Did I say that only teens would benefit? Perhaps before you suggest others to look at a window you should pick up a book and learn rather then trying to jump to insults.

[Abriael]

Nothing you have provided says otherwise. Rather I work with the laws of economics and you are working with the laws of "I said neener neener"

Lol, you work with the laws of assumption, and judging from what you say, you never ever set foot on EVE Online or Tera, so you don't even have a basic idea of the results and workings of the system.

The laws of economics are way more complex than the flawed concepts you used. I provided all there was to be provided, and from the development side, people that have worked on MMORPGs professionally for a decade provide the rest.

But i do find absolutely hilarious that you think to know better of the application of economics to MMORPGs than the whole development teams of two different MMOs.

Here's a hint for you, mate. You don't. Not even close.

Did I say that only teens would benefit? Perhaps before you suggest others to look at a window you should pick up a book and learn rather then trying to jump to insults.

You're the one that mentioned teens. Not me. Besides, with a degree in brand management under my belt, I don't really need to read many more books on economics than the many I already had the pleasure to absorb.

[Altena]

Here's a hint for you, mate. You don't. Not even close.

Do I sense an aussie tone?

[Abriael]

Do I sense an aussie tone?

Nah, imagine an italian accent

[Shougun]

Lol, you work with the laws of assumption, and from what you say, you never ever set foot on EVE Online or Tera, so you don't even have a basic idea of the results and workings of the system.

The laws of economics are way more complex than the flawed concepts you used. I provided all there was to be provided, and from the development side, people that have worked on MMORPGs professionally for a decade provided the rest.

But i do find absolutely hilarious that you think to know better of the application of economics to MMORPGs than the whole development teams of two different MMOs.

Here's a hint for you, mate. You don't.

You have provided nothing aganist what I said, all you do is say "its flawed, its wrong, it doesnt happen cause I am in a biz"

I never said a dev team has got the idea wrong - just that you do.

Do you think Blizzard didnt know it supported RMT? Of course it did, it wanted to - they made great money off of players money using tax (D3 AH).

You are the only one that doesnt understand the systems at hand. PLEX supports RMT. I never said EVE doesnt undestand that, I am sure they know people are making in game money from real life - they designed the system.

You're the one that mentioned teens. Not me. Besides, with a degree in brand management under my belt, I don't really need to read many more books on economics than the many I already had the pleasure to absorb.

I mentioned teens indeed - but did I say only teens ever and ever? No I didnt - I just pointed out an obvious target audience. Perhaps you looked at the box but you obviously didnt read them.

[Abriael]

You have provided nothing aganist what I said, all you do is say "its flawed, its wrong, it doesnt happen cause I am in a biz"

The fact that you plug your ears and ignore points that obliterate yours doesn't make them disappear, I'm afraid.

I never said a dev team has got the idea wrong - just that you do.

That's massively funny, isn't it? Considering that most of the concepts I'm talking about are an almost verbatim repetition of what both CCP and En Masse have said for years, and that can be easily summarized with: "PLEX and Chronoscroll damage RMT".

But you seem to think you know better, why am I surprised? This is a MMORPG forum. The perfect ploriferation ground for gamers that think they know better than those that do this for a living.

I mentioned teens indeed - but did I say only teens ever and ever? No I didnt - I just pointed out an obvious target audience. Perhaps you looked at the box but you obviously didnt read them.

Funny, because that's the least obvious target audience, considering that teens normally have adults to rely upon for their gaming needs.

[Shougun]

The fact that you plug your ears and ignore points that obliterate yours doesn't make them disappear, I'm afraid.

You havent made a single good point you just mention other unrelated things and make worthless posts like this one. "I am owning you" - see my point its right there "I am owning you".

That's massively funny, isn't it? Considering that most of the concepts I'm talking about are an almost verbatim repetition of what both CCP and En Masse have said for years, and that can be easily summarized with: "PLEX and Chronoscroll damage RMT".

Of course they would say it is damaging RMT, you dont say "I'm trying to replace the enemy RMT with my own RMT" when selling the system - just like when they introduce other systems like fatigue (resting bar) they dont call it "stopping you from playing too fast".

But you seem to think you know better, why am I surprised? This is a MMORPG forum. The perfect ploriferation ground for gamers that think they know better than those that do this for a living.

Like yourself apparently.

Funny, because that's the least obvious target audience, considering that teens normally have adults to rely upon for their gaming needs.

Teens that cant get their parents to pay monthly for a game that takes away from their schooling? Hmm.. lol

But I didnt limit it to just teens so I'm not even sure why you are bothering with the statement that wasnt even the point other than to deflect from the obvious fact you've got nothing else to work with.

[Abriael]

You havent made a single good point you just mention other unrelated things and make worthless posts like this one. "I am owning you" - see my point its right there "I am owning you".

I haven't? Yoshida seems to differ. Unfortunately you telling "you haven't made a single good point" (funny how you do exactly what you accuse me of doing lol) doesn't make it true.

I know, truth hurts. You'll get used to it.

Of course they would say it is damaging RMT, you dont say "I'm trying to replace the enemy RMT with my own RMT" when selling the system - just like when they introduce other systems like fatigue (resting bar) they dont call it "stopping you from playing too fast".

Oh no your argument is that they lie? LOL. Could you go lower than that? And of course their whole playerbase is so dumb that they don't see through that lie! You must know better than them all I bet.

Here's a hint. No, they don't lie. They just know a lot better than you do, and the result is in front of hundreds of thousands of players every day.

Like yourself apparently.

Unfortunately for your misguided argument, I'm not the one that is trying to pass the idea that two whole development teams are wrong or lying. That'd be you.

Teens that cant get their parents to pay monthly for a game that takes away from their schooling? Hmm.. lol

But I didnt limit it to just teens so I'm not even sure why you are bothering with the statement that wasnt even the point other than to deflect from the obvious fact you've got nothing else to work with.

Oh what i got is someone that mentioned teens to try to downplay the system as something that would only bring in more teens. I know the tricks, my friend. Don't worry.

[Abriael]

lol people have countered your points plenty, you just have this delusion that they're all wrong because you say so.

Keep dreaming. You sure didn't, since all you posted are personal attacks and insults.

It's simple, this idea rewards the cheap and lazy while promoting RMT and pay to win gameplay. You start a thread and troll for 3+ days and 63+ pages where you dismiss everybody else with your opinions and claim that they're facts and that you "decimated their arguments" when really all you've done is make yourself look pathetic. It's a tragic display indeed.

Looks like Yoshida disagrees with you, and looking at the comments and likes, a lot of other people do. I'm satisfied with that. Someone that can do nothing else than insult is of no consequence.

And it's all simply because you don't really play this game (2 50s but 2500 posts) So the logical conclusion is that you want to earn gil without having to do anything in the game.

Looking at your join date, I played the game longer than you did. Quite a lot longer actually. I just mostly played when power leveling and easy progression weren't part of the game as they are now.

Your "logical conclusion" is nothing else than a personal attack from someone that's mad.