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    Quote Originally Posted by Hart View Post
    Is it selfish of me to expect someone to earn something through work? [If so, yeah. Hell yeah, I'm selfish. If you think you're entitled to something that someone else has to work for, simply because you have more money, you are a blight.

    This concept is so absurd that it is comparable with the "Pray to the 12 to keep our special gifts!" thread. You don't deserve anything you don't work for.
    I shall reveal a secret that has been passed down from father to son for generations of gamers. It's just for your ears, so don't tell anyone else than your firstborn son when he comes of age:

    This isn't work. It's a game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    This isn't work. It's a game.
    If you don't enjoy playing this game, why are you still here? Eventually you're going to have to work towards something, but as devastating as that sounds. You'll live. Not only will you live, you'll enjoy the fruits of your labor, even moreso than if you bought them with your piggybank. I promise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hart View Post
    If you don't enjoy playing this game, why are you still here? Eventually you're going to have to work towards something, but as devastating as that sounds. You'll live. Not only will you live, you'll enjoy the fruits of your labor, even moreso than if you bought them with your piggybank. I promise.
    Subjective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hart View Post
    If you don't enjoy playing this game, why are you still here?
    You're the one that referenced it as "work". Not me.

    Eventually you're going to have to work towards something, but as devastating as that sounds. You'll live
    Don't worry, despite your petty assumptions and insinuations (it' really funny how low you can get. Comedy gold at its best), I'm very used to work towards things. Important things. And that's precisely why I don't really mind if someone else can get some virtual item easier then me.

    Good for them. People do that all the time anyway (even just by being carried by their linkshell), and it doesn't affect my experience in the slightest way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    The PLEX system does not reduce any RMT activity it however makes RMT activity safer and more affordable - meaning it will increase the demand of RMTing because the price is now lower.
    A false concept, proven false where the PLEX system and chronoscrolls are already successfully at work and by simple economy theory already explained in this thread. But do go on repeating it.

    It also allows players who dont have the cash (maybe a teen or something) the ability to farm for a while and pay for their game.
    Assuming that only teens can't afford a monthly fee or need that money better placed elsewhere shows a rather incomplete vision of the world. I suggest looking out of the window. It's very educational.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post


    A false concept, proven false where the PLEX system and chronoscrolls are already successfully at work and by simple economy theory already explained in this thread. But do go on repeating it.
    Nothing you have provided says otherwise. Rather I work with the laws of economics and you are working with the laws of "I said neener neener"

    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Assuming that only teens can't afford a monthly fee or need that money better placed elsewhere shows a rather incomplete vision of the world. I suggest looking out of the window. It's very educational.
    Did I say that only teens would benefit? Perhaps before you suggest others to look at a window you should pick up a book and learn rather then trying to jump to insults.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Nothing you have provided says otherwise. Rather I work with the laws of economics and you are working with the laws of "I said neener neener"
    Lol, you work with the laws of assumption, and judging from what you say, you never ever set foot on EVE Online or Tera, so you don't even have a basic idea of the results and workings of the system.

    The laws of economics are way more complex than the flawed concepts you used. I provided all there was to be provided, and from the development side, people that have worked on MMORPGs professionally for a decade provide the rest.

    But i do find absolutely hilarious that you think to know better of the application of economics to MMORPGs than the whole development teams of two different MMOs.

    Here's a hint for you, mate. You don't. Not even close.

    Did I say that only teens would benefit? Perhaps before you suggest others to look at a window you should pick up a book and learn rather then trying to jump to insults.
    You're the one that mentioned teens. Not me. Besides, with a degree in brand management under my belt, I don't really need to read many more books on economics than the many I already had the pleasure to absorb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Here's a hint for you, mate. You don't. Not even close.
    Do I sense an aussie tone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altena View Post
    Do I sense an aussie tone?
    Nah, imagine an italian accent
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Lol, you work with the laws of assumption, and from what you say, you never ever set foot on EVE Online or Tera, so you don't even have a basic idea of the results and workings of the system.

    The laws of economics are way more complex than the flawed concepts you used. I provided all there was to be provided, and from the development side, people that have worked on MMORPGs professionally for a decade provided the rest.

    But i do find absolutely hilarious that you think to know better of the application of economics to MMORPGs than the whole development teams of two different MMOs.

    Here's a hint for you, mate. You don't.
    You have provided nothing aganist what I said, all you do is say "its flawed, its wrong, it doesnt happen cause I am in a biz"

    I never said a dev team has got the idea wrong - just that you do.

    Do you think Blizzard didnt know it supported RMT? Of course it did, it wanted to - they made great money off of players money using tax (D3 AH).

    You are the only one that doesnt understand the systems at hand. PLEX supports RMT. I never said EVE doesnt undestand that, I am sure they know people are making in game money from real life - they designed the system.


    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    You're the one that mentioned teens. Not me. Besides, with a degree in brand management under my belt, I don't really need to read many more books on economics than the many I already had the pleasure to absorb.
    I mentioned teens indeed - but did I say only teens ever and ever? No I didnt - I just pointed out an obvious target audience. Perhaps you looked at the box but you obviously didnt read them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    You have provided nothing aganist what I said, all you do is say "its flawed, its wrong, it doesnt happen cause I am in a biz"
    The fact that you plug your ears and ignore points that obliterate yours doesn't make them disappear, I'm afraid.

    I never said a dev team has got the idea wrong - just that you do.
    That's massively funny, isn't it? Considering that most of the concepts I'm talking about are an almost verbatim repetition of what both CCP and En Masse have said for years, and that can be easily summarized with: "PLEX and Chronoscroll damage RMT".

    But you seem to think you know better, why am I surprised? This is a MMORPG forum. The perfect ploriferation ground for gamers that think they know better than those that do this for a living.

    I mentioned teens indeed - but did I say only teens ever and ever? No I didnt - I just pointed out an obvious target audience. Perhaps you looked at the box but you obviously didnt read them.
    Funny, because that's the least obvious target audience, considering that teens normally have adults to rely upon for their gaming needs.
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