SE Please implement a Chonoscroll/PLEX system in FFXIV: ARR

[Heavell]

this is quite a nice idea but... i strongly disagree if SE going implement it on ARR.

IMO this system quiet good only for several MMORPGs but just NOT for Final Fantasy online...
i like the way XI's works, especially when working on some content with LS's base DKP system. Players log, players do their best for the LS, players have the rights to loot, players spend their time and making a nice relation between members. SE does the right job, sell in-game quality to players, i think this is MMORPG i've been looking for.... but with this system..someday this game is going to meh. well i'm leaving if this ever happened.

but it's unavoidable that "gil buyers" exist, well most of them lazy to do things and want easiest way to achieve something, rare to talk to newbie and arrogant in most case.

Well in my PoV, i always treat LS members as "family", im enjoying my time when talk with them including when solving drama or issues inside LS. personally, i don't have problem with gil buyers, but for me.... by doing that, it's like have no pride.

note : Whatever, people have different ways to enjoy this game i'm glad up until now SE didn't implement this system. Good luck with your thread.

[Shougun]

That's a rather artificial distinction.

The game is the game, we are talking about the game not the whole world. It is hardily artificial.

Yep, you're right. I don't care. The reason why I don't care is because it also advantages those without money (or better, it allows them to help each other), and because it helps the game retain subscriptions, that is a *large* problem for P2P games nowadays, and helps fighting RMT firms (that are another large problem), without affecting anyone's experience of the game negatively (unless one is simply jaelous of those that have more, but that's his problem, not the problem of the game).

The plex system lets people who would never pay monthly but have loads of ass sitting time the ability to play. Sure, I agree. I am saying I dont care about that person. I like this system. SE can make money p2p, make updates - and I can play knowing that everyone playing is on equal ground (at least directly and legally).

[Abriael]

and I can play knowing that everyone is on equal ground (at least directly).

Good that you can, considering that this fabled equal ground is already just an illusion.

[Shougun]

Good that you can, considering that equal ground is already just an illusion.

[Aenarion]

I'm not sure what's funnier, Abriael's shocking stamina in being able to keep this thread going, or the not-as-shocking inability of most people to debate the merits of the actual system rather than what they "think" is the system.

Oh well, keep up the good work, will return for more lulz.

[Chardrizard]

Man, at least Yoshida isn't as stupid as half of the NA playerbase, 47 pages and there are still people thinking it will somehow ruins the economy when there is not a single gil introduced into the system.

I respect people that disagree on moral ground and against RMT altogether, but the one that disagree because they are stupid and ignorant despite all the actual evidence. /facepalm.

[GodseijuroHiko]

this is quite a nice idea but... i strongly disagree if SE going implement it on ARR.

IMO this system quiet good only for several MMORPGs but just NOT for Final Fantasy online...
i like the way XI's works, especially when working on some content with LS's base DKP system. Players log, players do their best for the LS, players have the rights to loot, players spend their time and making a nice relation between members. SE does the right job, sell in-game quality to players, i think this is MMORPG i've been looking for.... but with this system..someday this game is going to meh. well i'm leaving if this ever happened.

but it's unavoidable that "gil buyers" exist, well most of them lazy to do things and want easiest way to achieve something, rare to talk to newbie and arrogant in most case.

Well in my PoV, i always treat LS members as "family", im enjoying my time when talk with them including when solving drama or issues inside LS. personally, i don't have problem with gil buyers, but for me.... by doing that, it's like have no pride.

note : Whatever, people have different ways to enjoy this game i'm glad up until now SE didn't implement this system. Good luck with your thread.

Exactly, its a personal issue. I respect that you're honest in your feelings. You can admit that it's good, but you just don't like it. Fair enough. People keep going in circles trying to hide jealousy against people who have more. It's that way in RL. RL = Pay to win. People see video games as an escape from RL, and I'm almost certain they want to keep some of the unfairness of RL out of it. That is understandable. The lying/ignoring logic/personal attacks need to stop. "You have 2 lvl 50 jobs so you must be wrong." /slowclap

Just say, "I don't like RMT. PERIOD." Don't twist people's words, make assumptions based on fear of the RMT concept, or hide personal jealously while ignoring that the system was implemented successfully before. If there was an instance where it caused a game great harm, share it. It's a welcome addition.

Abriael, just let the thread die man. New people just keep coming and you're being "forced" (lol, though you seem to be enjoying it. It's rare to find a thread with such a strong logical foothold.) to repeat yourself many times over. This topic stirs up the human condition, there is no end. Pride, envy, sloth, and greed seem to be floating points here.

[Ingolf]

As long as you call them "Chocobucks"

I don't care either way. I'd probably use the system occasionally if it were implemented.

[Xerius]

funny how it works people want to play the game without playing it. people just want to log in gain then log out.
you dont need a few hours of farming a day. 1 hour a day you can rack up 100k a day and just selling junk. if you can do 1 hour day farming then a MMO aint for you, and there the ones turning the genre into crap.
if your paying for something to get free game time its not free you payed anyways.

i couldnt care less about RMT cuz there not going anywhere and in this game not a big deal your gather nodes are instanced and if they under cut im gonna under them to get my money.

I don't think you understand at all. Someone has to pay for the "PLEX" or whatever it would be called. They don't just materialize. So, someone is paying for it. It's not just free time. If you utilize them you're just being rewarded for playing I don't understand how that can be wrong.

[axemtitanium]

Exactly, its a personal issue. I respect that you're honest in your feelings. You can admit that it's good, but you just don't like it. Fair enough. People keep going in circles trying to hide jealousy against people who have more. It's that way in RL. RL = Pay to win. People see video games as an escape from RL, and I'm almost certain they want to keep some of the unfairness of RL out of it. That is understandable. The lying/ignoring logic/personal attacks need to stop. "You have 2 lvl 50 jobs so you must be wrong." /slowclap

Just say, "I don't like RMT. PERIOD." Don't twist people's words, make assumptions based on fear of the RMT concept, or hide personal jealously while ignoring that the system was implemented successfully before. If there was an instance where it caused a game great harm, share it. It's a welcome addition.

Abriael, just let the thread die man. New people just keep coming and you're being "forced" (lol, though you seem to be enjoying it. It's rare to find a thread with such a strong logical foothold.) to repeat yourself many times over. This topic stirs up the human condition, there is no end. Pride, envy, sloth, and greed seem to be floating points here.

I agree. Having a personal disagreement is fine, no personal attacks necessary.

Also, I think the purpose of the thread is basically achieved. You got a rep response. The only further benefit that can come out of this is educating more people about what PLEX actually is but I think we've covered that (again and again for every new person who bothers to comment, I might add). There's no need to badger people for having misconceptions when a simple clarification would suffice.