SE Please implement a Chonoscroll/PLEX system in FFXIV: ARR

[Abriael]

Nope, I really hope they do so that people who create threads suggesting they add something just to have an argument rather than caring a single bit about whether it's added or not can whine and cry when they do add it because they don't do it the way you wanted them to, which was actually not at all. My argument is perfectly valid, you just choose to ignore it because you don't like it.

That you think this will in any way change or get rid of RMT shows how little you understand why and how they make money. RMT don't care whether making money is easy or not, and they will continue to exist whether or not this system is added.

Your problem is that I don't "Think". I've seen it happen.

This isn't a new idea.

[Duuude007]

To prevent gil buying by becoming a gil seller seems to me to be completely ass-backwards logic.

[GodseijuroHiko]

I think every stone that this topic has to offer was turned and discussed thoroughly.

Yes, I see no attempted solutions here. (How do YOU propose RMT be combated? Still waiting on an answer to this btw. Please continue to ignore it)I'm not gonna call people idiots and jerks for not agreeing with me.

I'm gonna just lurk. Every other post is to tell someone they don't understand the system. You can only scream "ignorance" so many times.

[Abriael]

To prevent gil buying by becoming a gil seller seems to me to be completely ass-backwards logic.

Gil buying isn't the problem. I already explained the problem by your request. Here:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post875421

[Kiroh]

Your problem is that I don't "Think". I've seen it happen.

This isn't a new idea.

You're right, you don't think. If you even half believe there is a single game out there without a large RMT population you are sadly mistaken. The only thing that gets rid of RMT is when people stop playing the game and there's no one left to buy their products.

This isn't a new idea, and it's not going to change anything. It won't even make it harder for RMT to make money because RMT don't actually put any work into the game in the first place. Unlike you, they simply start a bot program and let it run until they've made enough of what they want to sell to make a profit. That you think you have the solution to change that and know more about combating RMT than SE does (or at least enough so you think they should change their billing system to support what you want them to do) is arrogant, ridiculous, and just plain wrong.

[GodseijuroHiko]

Nuru: What you posted was accurate except for the fact that SE is going to make money. It just won't be your money. It'll be someone else's money. Someone else will buy the subscription, and sell that subscription to you for gil. Technically, SE is going to be making the same amount of money regardless, except the person who spent the USD is getting extra in-game gil out of the whole deal. Kind of/sort of makes you and and guy you bought the item from RMT in the sense that you just spent gil on USD, and they just spent USD on gil.

Hopefully that's clear.



I agree with this big time. There's no reason for them to change how they do things, when their current model made them a huge amount of success from FFXI. I'm certain they want to replicate that model and success with FFXIV.

And then my personal beliefs, which I don't want to be contested.. I'm just sharing:

FFXIV should not be free to play for anyone. Even if the money is coming from somewhere/someone else.

By playing and subscribing to the game service, you should be proud with your decision to enjoy this high caliber product, while supporting the hard-working high caliber staff and company. Your own money should speak for you, not somebody else's. Be part of the community and let everyone be equals as customers.



It seemed like you being being a jerk, and it has nothing to do with the debate.
I just wanted to call you out if you were intentionally trying to be a jerk. Not insulting you~
Please forgive me. ._.

I forgive you. No harm done. I have no patience for fake people. They asked questions with no real intent on accepting an answer while placing fake emotes. I may be a bit curt and forward but I never insulted anyone. They don't understand even thought there have been Wall o' texts explaining. You also might have missed their previous question. "which one are you? the gil buyer? or the gil buyer supporter? It added nothing at all to the discussion except to put the poster "ON THE SPOT." Don't buy into their game.

[A_Hortensia]

And this is for people concerned about current RMT in FFXIV, this is how SE handled the situation previously with their previous online title:

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...13/detail.html

Just for the sharing and caring of knowledge.

[Abriael]

And this is for people concerned about current RMT in FFXIV, this is how SE handled the situation previously with their previous online title:

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...13/detail.html

Just for the sharing and caring of knowledge.

And it didn't work.

[AhmeraMae]

Yes, I see no attempted solutions here. (How do YOU propose RMT be combated? Still waiting on an answer to this btw. Please continue to ignore it)I'm not gonna call people idiots and jerks for not agreeing with me.

I'm gonna just lurk. Every other post is to tell someone they don't understand the system. You can only scream "ignorance" so many times.

I'm not sure if you quoted me because you agree with my post or because I, if so, unintentionally, ignored one of your posts that was directed at me earlier today.

[Duuude007]

Gil buying isn't the problem. I already explained the problem by your request. Here:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post875421

Yes yes with the RMT destroying our economy. That wasnt the point I was trying to make with this post.

My point is that gil buying is an issue worth addressing so long as real world currency can influence it. Your argument of :

"time = money and therefore we should be able to substitute time with money" (paraphrasing)

may work for a select few other games in dealing with subs, but these factors were with the games from the start. Who is to know how pressing this on an existing economy could change the game for the better or worse? Do we have test cases with specific examples?