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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    Less profitable is still profitable. Did you just try to counter me with a partial agreement?
    Making it completely unprofitable is pretty much impossible, I'm quite sure making it less profitable is a lot better than doing nothing.

    Second question: If these systems are so grand, were they there from the start, or was the game dramatically shifted from one p2p style to another, the way you are asserting we should? If it was the latter, SE may consider this argument. If not, you are wasting your time.
    They're not a "shift", they live happily on the side of paid subs. In TERA they were introduced a few months after release. EVE introduced PLEX five years after release.

    Well I'm delighted we haven't reduced this conversation to namecalling. Kudos.
    Strawman is your argument. Here.

    I agree that this is a good business model. In fact, many MMO's agree. Thank the Twelve that Yoshi-San is not one of them. His focus on quality is the very reason I still play, and likely a condition for me to still play in the future.
    I meant quantity of subscribers.

    You certainly blindsided me with this 'zinger'. Tell me, did you ever look up my term, or did you sidestep the concept just so you could drive your points home?
    Didn't need to look it up. The problem is that it doesn't apply to anything I said. I make very few assumptions, as there are some very clear study cases out there that SE can look at for examples. One of them is actually known for providing their data to other companies.

    You may not; you specifically. There are many many people who would without hesitation, however.
    Sure, and there'd be nothing wrong with that. It would influence anyone else negatively, but it would influence others positively.

    I'm not sure about you, but I'd be ok with letting others pay for my entertainment if my wallet were to get tight. I'm sure I'm not the only one, and I would say that something that helps keeping subs up in the market SE is going to launch ARR in is a good thing.
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    Last edited by Abriael; 11-05-2012 at 02:52 PM.