SE Please implement a Chonoscroll/PLEX system in FFXIV: ARR

[Nix]

At this point I'm pretty much just sitting back with the popcorn to watch the show, while throwing in a comment or two here and there

Frankly all that can be said has been said more than enough times from both sides, the poor horse is not only dead and beaten, it's been pulverized at this point.

This argument has about as much chance to be productive as a debate about abortion between a tea partier and a feminist activist

I like that analogy haha XD

*tries not to step in the horse-mush*

[Abriael]

Frankly all that can be said has been said more than enough times from both sides, the poor horse is not only dead and beaten, it's been pulverized at this point.

I know, call it Déformation professionnelle, but I'm not very keen on letting people spread misinformation and misleading concepts. Which is why I'm still here.

[Duuude007]

Can't attack =/= debating a wall
dismissal =/= debate

[Duuude007]

Point A: Cash to gil conversions allow Player 1 with money to purchase rare, high-end goods in a fraction of the time it takes Player 2 to farm the same gil

Point B: the more these valuables are purchased by the newly rich players, the higher their demand, as standard means of farming the goods remains flush due to thedifficulty to earn.

Point C supply and demand kicks in- prices rise, the goods become less attainable by standard gil farming, and due to a quick fix being advertised, more are encouraged to purchase what they need to compete in the high end of the game with real money.

The cycle of pay to win begins. sure, some folks, or more specifically powerful linkshells profit, but this could easily spiral into a caste system that, at least in XIV, could have many unfortunate consequences.

[Abriael]

Point A: Cash to gil conversions allow Player 1 with money to purchase rare, high-end goods in a fraction of the time it takes Player 2 to farm the same gil

We already know that rare high-end goods will be untradable. Full stop.

The rest of your point is made moot just by this, without even going into the fact that the "newly rich" players that can afford the items are completely offset by the fact that those that gave them the money have that purchasing power subtracted from their total, keeping demand on the same level.

[Dzian]

Point A: Cash to gil conversions allow Player 1 with money to purchase rare, high-end goods in a fraction of the time it takes Player 2 to farm the same gil

Point B: the more these valuables are purchased by the newly rich players, the higher their demand, as standard means of farming the goods remains flush due to thedifficulty to earn.

Point C supply and demand kicks in- prices rise, the goods become less attainable by standard gil farming, and due to a quick fix being advertised, more are encouraged to purchase what they need to compete in the high end of the game with real money.

The cycle of pay to win begins. sure, some folks, or more specifically powerful linkshells profit, but this could easily spiral into a caste system that, at least in XIV, could have many unfortunate consequences.

The things is that under your example for every newly rich(er) player there's a newly poor(er) player to go with it.
if i were to purchase a plex type item for xiv and sell it in the markets for 10 million gil. (entirely random value) and you were to buy it for 10 million gil then i am 10 million richer you are 10 million poorer. there is still the same level of gil in circulation.

under this scenario it really isnt pay to win. if prices rose drastically as per your point c then more people may buy plex sure but in a bid to attain money for those items more people would be selling the plex and less people buying them as they're needing money for rare items thus supply outweighs demand and prices will infact fall

[Duuude007]

rare, highly sought goods, lets see:

Mailbreakers doublebound worth 45 mil.

Full stop negated.

[Vanguard319]

I've heard of EVE's plex system, and it's an interesting idea. The only problem I can think of is certain players trying to exploit it by jacking up prices. Other than that, it may be a viable option.

[Abriael]

rare, highly sought goods, lets see:
Mailbreakers doublebound worth 45 mil.
Full stop negated.

Too bad that we aren't talking about 1.0 here.

I've heard of EVE's plex system, and it's an interesting idea. The only problem I can think of is certain players trying to exploit it by jacking up prices. Other than that, it may be a viable option.

Amending the system with TERA's limitations (two scrolls maximum a week), makes that possibility pretty much impossible. Chronoscrolls give you a chance to beef up your buying power in a limited way in order to get a few things you need, but they get nowhere near the point of letting you control any part of the market.

The system needs to be obviously implemented with the necessary failsafes, like everything that interacts with the economy.

[Nero]

Too bad that we aren't talking about 1.0 here.

Too bad that you dont have a clue about 2.0's High end goods, unless you are actually sitting next to Yoshi and work for him.