SE Please implement a Chonoscroll/PLEX system in FFXIV: ARR

[Duuude007]

If you legitimize dollar to gil conversions, you are encouraging the players to adopt a pay-to-win mentality.

There is no gray area there- one directly influences the other.

If you support this, which it sounds like you do, good for you.

[Abriael]

If you legitimize dollar to gil conversions, you are encouraging the players to adopt a pay-to-win mentality.

There is no gray area there- one directly influences the other.

Nope. As in this system there's nothing you can buy that anyone else can't get with normal gameplay. Paying doesn't guarantee any "win".

[Duuude007]

Nope. As in this system there's nothing you can buy that anyone else can't get with normal gameplay. Paying doesn't guarantee any "win".

An awfully quick assertion for your xiv background, mister Rosen. What would make it pay to win under your standards, then?

[Abriael]

An awfully quick assertion for your xiv background, mister Rosen. What would make it pay to win under your standards, then?

What's my XIV background? Making assumptions again?

According to the most widely accepted definition in the industry Pay to Win (as I already specified multiple times) implies an advantage that cannot be gained with normal gameplay.

IE: selling boosters that raise stats over their natural values (and that aren't available as drops, craftables and such), gear that is more powerful than what's available in game, enchant materials that are superior to the ones available in game and so forth.

Gil can easily be matched with normal gameplay, and it's even further from pay to win as in ARR gil won't even let you buy the best equipment in the game, that will be untradable.

[Duuude007]

What's my XIV background? Making assumptions again?

Unless you have alts or mules with significantly more extensive history than your own, then yeah, I have a pretty good idea. No assumptions needed.

[Duuude007]

you...want me to spell out your achievements?

Whatever ruse you are trying to trap me with, isn't going to work. Way to tangent.

[Abriael]

you...want me to spell out your achievements?

No, I'd like to hear what, according to you, they have to do with this topic.

[Duuude007]

You accused me of making assumptions, and I explained as far as was necessary. You sir, began this tangential whirlwind.

And for that I say...grats?

[Nix]

I thought this was a cool thread at first, some nice ideas being thrown around but it's devolved into pages and pages of people on both sides attacking each-other again.

I can understand that people have very strong views on both sides of the fence, but is this really the right way to voice them? Resorting to personal attacks demeans you, let's be civilized D:

[Aenarion]

I thought this was a cool thread at first, some nice ideas being thrown around but it's devolved into pages and pages of people on both sides attacking each-other again.

I can understand that people have very strong views on both sides of the fence, but is this really the right way to voice them? Resorting to personal attacks demeans you, let's be civilized D:

At this point I'm pretty much just sitting back with the popcorn to watch the show, while throwing in a comment or two here and there

Frankly all that can be said has been said more than enough times from both sides, the poor horse is not only dead and beaten, it's been pulverized at this point.

This argument has about as much chance to be productive as a debate about abortion between a tea partier and a feminist activist