SE Please implement a Chonoscroll/PLEX system in FFXIV: ARR

[GodseijuroHiko]

this is quite a nice idea but... i strongly disagree if SE going implement it on ARR.

IMO this system quiet good only for several MMORPGs but just NOT for Final Fantasy online...
i like the way XI's works, especially when working on some content with LS's base DKP system. Players log, players do their best for the LS, players have the rights to loot, players spend their time and making a nice relation between members. SE does the right job, sell in-game quality to players, i think this is MMORPG i've been looking for.... but with this system..someday this game is going to meh. well i'm leaving if this ever happened.

but it's unavoidable that "gil buyers" exist, well most of them lazy to do things and want easiest way to achieve something, rare to talk to newbie and arrogant in most case.

Well in my PoV, i always treat LS members as "family", im enjoying my time when talk with them including when solving drama or issues inside LS. personally, i don't have problem with gil buyers, but for me.... by doing that, it's like have no pride.

note : Whatever, people have different ways to enjoy this game i'm glad up until now SE didn't implement this system. Good luck with your thread.

Exactly, its a personal issue. I respect that you're honest in your feelings. You can admit that it's good, but you just don't like it. Fair enough. People keep going in circles trying to hide jealousy against people who have more. It's that way in RL. RL = Pay to win. People see video games as an escape from RL, and I'm almost certain they want to keep some of the unfairness of RL out of it. That is understandable. The lying/ignoring logic/personal attacks need to stop. "You have 2 lvl 50 jobs so you must be wrong." /slowclap

Just say, "I don't like RMT. PERIOD." Don't twist people's words, make assumptions based on fear of the RMT concept, or hide personal jealously while ignoring that the system was implemented successfully before. If there was an instance where it caused a game great harm, share it. It's a welcome addition.

Abriael, just let the thread die man. New people just keep coming and you're being "forced" (lol, though you seem to be enjoying it. It's rare to find a thread with such a strong logical foothold.) to repeat yourself many times over. This topic stirs up the human condition, there is no end. Pride, envy, sloth, and greed seem to be floating points here.

[axemtitanium]

Exactly, its a personal issue. I respect that you're honest in your feelings. You can admit that it's good, but you just don't like it. Fair enough. People keep going in circles trying to hide jealousy against people who have more. It's that way in RL. RL = Pay to win. People see video games as an escape from RL, and I'm almost certain they want to keep some of the unfairness of RL out of it. That is understandable. The lying/ignoring logic/personal attacks need to stop. "You have 2 lvl 50 jobs so you must be wrong." /slowclap

Just say, "I don't like RMT. PERIOD." Don't twist people's words, make assumptions based on fear of the RMT concept, or hide personal jealously while ignoring that the system was implemented successfully before. If there was an instance where it caused a game great harm, share it. It's a welcome addition.

Abriael, just let the thread die man. New people just keep coming and you're being "forced" (lol, though you seem to be enjoying it. It's rare to find a thread with such a strong logical foothold.) to repeat yourself many times over. This topic stirs up the human condition, there is no end. Pride, envy, sloth, and greed seem to be floating points here.

I agree. Having a personal disagreement is fine, no personal attacks necessary.

Also, I think the purpose of the thread is basically achieved. You got a rep response. The only further benefit that can come out of this is educating more people about what PLEX actually is but I think we've covered that (again and again for every new person who bothers to comment, I might add). There's no need to badger people for having misconceptions when a simple clarification would suffice.

[Aenarion]

I'm not sure what's funnier, Abriael's shocking stamina in being able to keep this thread going, or the not-as-shocking inability of most people to debate the merits of the actual system rather than what they "think" is the system.

Oh well, keep up the good work, will return for more lulz.

[Abriael]

I'm not sure what's funnier, Abriael's shocking stamina...

That's what she said...

Dont think anyone "won".

The thread was brought to the attention of Yoshida-san. That was its purpose and I'll call that a victory.

Whether it'll be implemented or not down the line, that's for him to decide. I trust him, or I wouldn't be here.

[Chardrizard]

Man, at least Yoshida isn't as stupid as half of the NA playerbase, 47 pages and there are still people thinking it will somehow ruins the economy when there is not a single gil introduced into the system.

I respect people that disagree on moral ground and against RMT altogether, but the one that disagree because they are stupid and ignorant despite all the actual evidence. /facepalm.

[Ingolf]

As long as you call them "Chocobucks"

I don't care either way. I'd probably use the system occasionally if it were implemented.

[Hart]

ITT: Abriael "decimates" other peoples points by completely ignoring them.

[Chardrizard]

ITT: Abriael "decimates" other peoples points by completely ignoring them.

Can't even take a loss with a pride.

[Shougun]

Can't even take a loss with a pride.

Dont think anyone "won".

Also.. @anyone: what does ITT mean? lol is it, "In this thread"?

[Hart]

Hart definitely has a point here. You have a clear tendency to discount points as they are challenging your own, and acting as if they never existed when you substitute your own. What was that Strawman definition again?

Regardless...

All things being equal, the simplest method tends to be the best method.

All of the points he ignored, were stupid.

Just like your post.

Sick burn, man. You really got me good. That will make me think twice about messing with you.