SE Please implement a Chonoscroll/PLEX system in FFXIV: ARR

[Alhanelem]

It's a completely different feature. It really has nothing to do with it.

Apples aren't oranges, yanno.

The comparison is relevant because both features were aimed (at least partially) at eliminating RMT.

So when wealthier people can instantly have the most gil simply because they can buy more "chronoscrolls" that's not a problem? It's ridiculous and unfair on every level

I have to agree with this.

It's no different than buying gil, since you can buy as many of these scrolls yourself with no intention of using them yourself. People pay money to get an advantage. It's sanctioned RMT.

[Jynx]

No thanks.

If people want to buy gil to get ahead in the game let them jump through the dangerous hoops of the dark RMT side. While I who spent my own time to get my gil don't have to risk that.

[Duuude007]

I would really like to see a rep post here. This debate just keeps going in circles, and personal attacks are getting kind of ridiculous.

[Kyri]

Id love this option and also a closer look into the payment options. No matter what payment type I try I almost ALWAYS get hit with a error code trying to pay. Why should it be so hard and frustrating to have them take my money? Before someone says "Your doing it wrong" there's actually a lot of posts of people having this same issue and if it pops up you have to wait 24 hrs, try again and get the same code. It's a issue there side they constantly try do blame on your bank/CC. I wish it wasn't so bloody difficult to give you money SE!

[Kyri]

On a side note im also down with cosmetic cash shops. If someone wants to pay for a bad ass skin or bikini that's their prerogative. I personally do like to buy a few skins, but im against actual useful items that cause the player base to -have- to spend the money to get things done.

[Gokulo]

Great, informative topic. Thanks Abriael and others that some very good posts here.

At the same time my frustration while reading it was reaching critical levels. I always forget how there's a big part of FF community is it's own kind of breed, allergic to logic and facts. It's like we are in the Dark Ages....

Personally, while it is clear that a system like that won't just pop up at launch (and anyone thinking that people are arguing that it should... just get out), I believe it could be a pretty good idea to consider that approach in the long run. S-E will know the best what they may or may not do with their game, irrelevant on what is said here.

[AhmeraMae]

That's another thing. In a way, this game will be more like a pay-to-win. Just not the same pay model, but definitely can work in a similar fashion.

Thank you, thank you. what ive been saying all along.

if you have legacy then its $10 a month which is 120 a year. that's the price of 2 full price games that cost $60.each. I think a game you can play everyday for a year is worth the price of 2 games you would prob only play for a few weeks so I don't see the need for anything to change. For people who don't have legacy, you'll have to pay a little more, sucks to be i guess.

God please no cash shops...

No thanks.

If people want to buy gil to get ahead in the game let them jump through the dangerous hoops of the dark RMT side. While I who spent my own time to get my gil don't have to risk that.

Why incorporate ideas relating to subscriptions from two dying MMO games? I'm not trying to troll or anything. I'm genuinely curious.

In my opinion, this topic is really simple.

For a game to be fair, every player needs to be on the same leve. As such, my personal life and how much money I have in RL should not affect in any way my performance in-game, or how much money I can make in-game. The same goes for time. Someone casual can't expect to have as much as a hardcore player with less play time. If I want to get something, I need to play for it, since this is a game.

The same thing goes for cash shops, even cosmetical.
I'd prefer to have a chance to get everything the game has to offer with playtime instead of RL money, even if it doesnt serve a purpose.

Keep in-game what is for the game. Don't throw RL in there.

At the same time my frustration while reading it was reaching critical levels. I always forget how there's a big part of FF community is it's own kind of breed, allergic to logic and facts. It's like we are in the Dark Ages....

nuff' said.

[syntaxlies]

if you have legacy then its $10 a month which is 120 a year. that's the price of 2 full price games that cost $60.each. I think a game you can play everyday for a year is worth the price of 2 games you would prob only play for a few weeks so I don't see the need for anything to change. For people who don't have legacy, you'll have to pay a little more, sucks to be i guess.

[KamikazeMan]

Why incorporate ideas relating to subscriptions from two dying MMO games? I'm not trying to troll or anything. I'm genuinely curious.

[AttacKat]

Why incorporate ideas relating to subscriptions from two dying MMO games?

I would hardly consider a game that is pulling in $15x400K (6M USD) in sub fees on a monthly basis "dying".

If you are not into PvP, it may not be a game many here may wish or even dare to play, as dying even once against PvE can cost you days of gameplay buildup. But for those that loves hardcore PvP players, it has been considered the best MMO for quite sometime.

I myself left after over 1-1/2 years because I was getting to the stage where I must venture into PvP, and I wasn't into that style of play.

jc