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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    Clever.

    So what kind of data do we have for other mmos with this system? Whether plex can work for EVE is one thing, are there several other success stories, or i it just EVE and rumors of it happening in TERA? Seems like an awfully small sample size to assert so confidently that it should be implemented in ARR.
    We delivered you a case in which PLEX worked out beautiful.
    How about you present us one where they don't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AhmeraMae View Post
    We delivered you a case in which PLEX worked out beautiful.
    How about you present us one where they don't?
    You sound like someone selling asbestos for the first time. Hey I got this great new material that insulates AND protects from fire! Let's put it in all the houses!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    Clever.

    So what kind of data do we have for other mmos with this system? Whether plex can work for EVE is one thing, are there several other success stories, or is it just EVE and rumors of it happening in TERA? Seems like an awfully small sample size to assert so confidently that it should be implemented in ARR.

    Again, I ask for a larger sample size because that is exactly what made the Auction house system so widely adopted, because it was successful in several previous games. It makes sense to see whether this system is truly compatible with an X|V economy which, was so bluntly pointed out to me, is dramatically different from EVE.
    100% agree. I don't know if a PLEX-like system will work for FFXIV. There's no guarantee that it will work like it has in EVE. However, I don't think it's fair to reject the idea outright as the zomgRMT crowd are saying. It's just an idea with demonstrable merit, in my opinion, and this thread exists to publicize it to the powers that be at SE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A_Hortensia View Post
    While it's true that there are some organizations that would go through such measures.

    That is not a true statement for all RMT. There are as many that pay legitimately to fund their business, as their are others who fund their business through criminal means.

    Just putting that out there.
    Those that pay legitimately are the vast minority, and the least dangerous (because they also have the less workforce to begin with). I'm not exactly talking about house-run operations, but facilities with several hundreds of sleep-in "employees" working on four turns 24/7.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    So let me get this straight, the argument you have with RMT is:

    You get rid of people outcompeting the average player on the market with superior supply quantities
    and
    You halt in-game RMT advertising

    Whatever else they do is A-O-K?
    That's what damages the economy. Personally, if my neighbor wants to get some gil to equip himself better (granted the fact that he won't have the very best, because that's Rare/ex), it's his business. It doesn't impact me in the slightest way, so why should I mind?

    As a matter of fact it impacts me positively as an endgame player. The more people are equipped decently, the more people I have to play with.

    And opens the door to cash shops. Its a slippery slope, my friend.
    The "slippery slope" argument is a logical fallacy, as it assume that someone will follow the slope downwards. That's nowhere a given.

    Quote Originally Posted by axemtitanium View Post
    I don't believe there are cash shops in EVE Online after 3 years with PLEX. A slope can be slippery, that's why you need integrity boots. With spikes.
    There actually is, but it's entirely cosmetic and doesn't influence gameplay in any way. Unfortunately that's the way the market is going, even with pay to play games.
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    A limiter on exploiting. Far better than the free reign of plex, but I still have my reservations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    A limiter on exploiting. Far better than the free reign of plex, but I still have my reservations.
    Oh, plex are plenty limited. You can be blown up in space with them. Not pretty when it happens
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    Last edited by Abriael; 11-06-2012 at 10:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Oh, plex are plenty limited. You can be blown up in space with them. Not pretty when it happens
    ...You're gonna have to run this past me again. Are you talking figuratively? As a game function?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    ...You're gonna have to run this past me again. Are you talking figuratively? As a game function?
    Not figuratively at all. Read and laugh.
    http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news...s-of-Game-Time
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    ...You're gonna have to run this past me again. Are you talking figuratively? As a game function?
    What Abriael just said, and it happens all the time too.

    Like I said, in Eve, idiots are soon parted with their money
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    When smb destroys your vessel, it's lost forever. If you happen to transport some PLEX at that time, they can get blown up aswell.
    Not a system meant for avatar-based mmo's though...
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